should he get paid twice?

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itsmecindi

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To my son Jake..

"Hey, wanna make five bucks?"

"Yeah!"

"Okay go out there and catch me a hundred pound pig, barr or gilt it doesn't matter. It's sold, the guy's picking it up on Friday."

This was Wednesday.

He and Jamie ran around half the night and finally caught one. The five bucks was just a bonus. The pig catching was done for fun.

"What'd you get?"

"A little gilt. She's a real pretty fat one."

This was Jake, and then Jamie said, "Yeah she put up a heck of a fight, but finally the dog cornered her and we got her. Probably wouldn't have caught her if it hadn't been for Girl helping us." (Notice the predominance of the word 'she'...and 'her'...)

"Good deal." I say, tickled to death that I didn't have to do the catching. I didn't even bother to go look, it was dark anyway.

I told Fred before bed, Jake and Jamie caught a nice gilt for the guy for Friday. He goes out the Thursday morning at 5:00 a.m. took one look (also in the dark) and....

"I don't want to sell her. Look at the body on her, she's gorgeous, she'll make mucho pretty babies. She's one of the best gilts. Turn her loose and I'll catch another one tonight when I get home. One of the smaller gilts or a barr."

"Ooookay."

Bear in mind, it was dark and the pig had it's rear end away from Fred, tucked into the corner of the crate. He was going by what he was told.

Later that morning Jake goes out to turn this little 'girl' back into the pasture. He had already released the pig by the time I got out there, and had it locked back up in the pasture.

"Hey Jake....you see that little thing dangling down there under that pig's belly?"

"Yeah."

"Do you NOT know what that is?"

"I TOLD you it was a barr, I couldn't figure out why Fred didn't want to sell it."

Well, there was about fifteen minutes of uh uh, you said....and no...I said....and the heck you dids.

The damage was done. Nothing left to do but catch him AGAIN.

By now little piggy was wise and come feeding time, (the next planned capture event) he had grown an extra pair of eyes in the back of his head, so needless to say, it was torturously slow and funny as heck watching Fred and Jake sneak up on him only to have him run off. An hour later, with a flying tackle, Jake got him and we got him re-crated.

I slipped a five dollar bill out of my pocket and handed it to Jake. He said...

"Thank you very much, but I caught this pig twice and I didn't do anything wrong so I should get paid twice."

Should he?
 
   / should he get paid twice? #2  
Danged right! You owed him $5 before you turned the pig loose. Just be glad he didn't ask for $7.50 for catchin' an educated pig. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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I feel Fred had the responsibility to make sure he knew what he was having released. If Jake actually said "gilt" then he is also PARTIALLY responsible, and should get paid the full $5 for the first "catch", and maybe $2.50 for the 2nd "catch". It was not Jake's fault Fred wanted it released without verifying what it was that was being released. Evidently it's easy for Fred to pass the responsibility onto Jake when Jake MAY have made a mistake.
This is a good lesson. If we take responsibility for what we do, we will strive to make the right decisions based on knowing the facts. I believe if Fred makes the choice to accept responsibility, and it is explained to Jake WHY this choice was made to pay him the second $5, perhaps it will help Jake understand the need to be as accurate as possible, and to take responsibility for HIS actions when he is not.
 
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Ok by that line of thinking, Jake gets $5 to wash the car on Saturday morning. Fred and Jake head out in the afternoon to rent some movies. Fred drives through a mud puddle, that Jake didn't warn him about. Does Jake have to wash the car a second time for half price? Maybe the car just stays muddy. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Terrible analogy, IMHO.

I'd give him the ten bucks this time but make it clear that in the future this won't happen if he mis-identifies his catch. I think that's as fair as it gets. After all, Fred could have looked a bit closer himself before HE made the decision to release. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Re: should he get paid twice? Decision

I'm going to pay him twice.

The reason being line four.

"Okay go out there and catch me a hundred pound pig, barr or gilt it doesn't matter."

He earned it both times. He was told that gender wasn't an issue, so he didn't pay close attention. Why should he? If the gender was important to Fred he should have checked, and if you want to get technical, I could have checked before the pig was released. Thanks for all the input.
 
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Re: should he get paid twice? Decision

look at it this way. it cost 5 bucks to catch a pig twice and 5 bucks to learn a lesson in understanding each other, all in all probly a bargain in both departments.
 
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Re: should he get paid twice? Decision

All right, you are honoring the "fine print" in the contract, good on you. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Re: should he get paid twice? Decision

Alright, this is beginning to sound like the old story problems we had to do in grade school way.....back......when...... in 19...6....never mind. Can't remeber back that far!!
 

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