Grading Single blade mower deck for the 180

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BillCroasmun

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Couldn't find the post where someone asked for a picture of my mower deck so I figured I'd start a new thread. This is the underside. It's a lot like the rough cut with a center bar connected to a spindle and then two short blades attach to the ends.
 

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Close up of a blade. (that needs sharpened /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif)
 

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top of the deck...
 

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Bill, What is the name and Model # on the hydraulic motor? I also had a friend tell me that he could put a layer of hard surface welding on mower blades and make them last about 4 times longer. I have never tried to hard surface any thing, but I might try it one of these days.
 
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JJ, I'll check for you on the motor tomorrow night. My yard was never finished graded and I've also turned a neighboring field into yard through continuous mowing. Needless to say I abuse the blades a bit. I'll check into the hard surface welding. Thanks! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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A metallurgist posted this on my Simplicity site about hardening (i.e. tempering) mower blades:


Being a metalurgist for over 15 years I can say with out reservation that bringing any type of metal to it's temper colors, or austenetic temprature (which is near 1200 degrees) will allow the metal to be conditioned to a variety of final temper conditons. First, after reaching temper, or the point in which a magnet will no longer stick to the ferrous metal, you can case harden, anneal, normalize or shock harden. Case hardening happens when temper is reached and the metal is placed in near pure carbon then oil quenched. This is called carburizing. Annealing is achieved by heating to austenetic (temper) temprature then SLOWLY cooling. Normalizing is achieved through heating to austenitic temp and then allowing to air cool. The faster the air cooling takes place determines the brinell hardness. This is a key factor in the ultimate result of your final tempering process. After normalizing you can then manipulate the ferous metal by heating it up to between 1050 and 1300 degrees. Taking the metal to a "cherry red" state allows the Martinsite and Pearlite molecules to "relax" into one flowing form as opposed to being left in it's "as formed" stressed state. Bottom line.......when you sharpen, do so at the correct angle as set forth by the manufacturer. Then use a torch and a magnet on the blade untill the magnet falls off on it's own. Then quench in heated water or used motor oil. (Do this out side in a metal pail and use tongs)Once the blade is cool, lightly grind or file the cutting edge so you can see bare metal. Then heat the edges untill they just start to blue and quench in water right away. This will normalize the metal and then temper it so that it will hold an edge longer. Tempering is a good thing, not a bad thing. If you really want a strong edge you can crush charcoal in to a powder, heat to the point where a magnet falls off the blade and then imerse the metal into the charcoal for a few seconds and then oil quench. This will effectively "case harden" the bear edge of the blade while leaving the subcutaneous metal more ductile and flexible for reducing shear or breakage.

An example.....take a hack saw blade, heat it up to the point where a magnet falls off then SLOWLY cool the blade. You'll be able to tie the hack saw blade in a knot before it breaks. Take a hack saw blade from a pack of new blades, put it in a vice and whack it near the vice with a hammer. It'll break in half. You can take ANY ferrous(magnetic) metal and make it do what you want it to with the right process of heating, cooling then re-heating. Just quenching a red hot blade will cause deep chipping of the edge of the blade. If you treat the red hot edge of the blade correctly you will have a lasting edge that can last two seasons easily. And then re-sharpening wont mean having to cut a lot off the blade to gain a good edge.
 
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KentT, Great post! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Thanks! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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JJ, My appologies for not getting back to you yet. Whenever I'm outside with the PT I don't have anything to write with or on. When I am at the PC I keep thinking "Dang I forgot to take a pencil out there again!" /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Haven't forgot about it though...
 
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JJ, There is no model # on the motor. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif There is a what I believe to be a partial manufacturer name on the top. It looks like this "CAS -- PPA" where the dashes are a small line was put in that runs to what I assume is the input side of the motor. Possibly a by-pass line. Other than that partial name there are no other markings. The only side I don't have clear visibility of is the underside.

I just went out to Hydraulic Supermarket and it appears that the full manufacturer name is Casappa.
 
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Is that line a by-pass line, or a motor case drain?.
 

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