skid steer high flow

[rtdiggr]

Just wondering if anyone knows if you can add high flow hydraulics to a skid steer.
I don't own a SS yet just wondering if this was possible.

Tks Shane

 

[TMTS]

I think you would be better of buying one that already has the high flow pump...lots of cheap ones around these days...

a retro fit would be pretty expensive...

my .02 worth, eh...

 

[cbturf]

I guess if you want to you can do anything but adding high flow seems like more trouble than it is worth when you can buy them. Not only do you have to change the pump but you would also have to add a bunch of plumbing since high flow machines have 5 quick couplers and I think you would have to add the switch to select between high and low flow.

now you got 4 cents.

 

[mouse]

for a bobcat yes it is possible tho not perhaps practicable, involves pump, plumbing, electrics etc. and pricey!

my service guys got a tad nervous when i asked them this same question inc pricing (about 10k as a rough guide locally)...

bobcat do not use 5 hoses coincidentally cb, though I understand the hoses used are a different diameter to the std flow hoses even though the couplers are same same.

a better question to ask is what do you really need hiflo for? perhaps if its for some wishlist of attachments in the future it might be better to use a std flow in the interim and change out to a hiflo if and when you prove a need.


remember what the large frame bobcats spit out on std flow which is slightly more than what a S205 hiflo will give you. maybe a large frame wil suffice unless you desire the full monty.

i can safely report a soil conditioner works far better in hiflo on a S185 than on std flow but only cause the drum spins faster and thereby seems to stall less.

my std flow 72" soil conditioner is rated to slightly above medium frame hiflo specs and the 7 pin detects the hiflo option on the 185 and automatically engages hiflo for you.

 

[rtdiggr]

Thanks for the responses guys, like i said i don't have a skid steer yet. What i was looking at was a ASV and it seems untill you get into a bigger machine with ASV you don't get the hiflow.

What i understand about SS attachments is if it turns [stump grinder, trencher etc] you should use hiflow. I did use a ASV 60 with trencher att. it took hours to do what i had to do.

I use to be the guy who would buy something then upgrade, not so much anymore. And i don't want to buy a machine like this and upgrade later.

Tks Shane

 

[ClearViewGroup]

Part of the reason that the smaller machines don't come hi-flow is just that...they are small...they don't have the space for the larger hydraulics or the engine power to pump them...

 

[rtdiggr]

Part of the reason that the smaller machines don't come hi-flow is just that...they are small...they don't have the space for the larger hydraulics or the engine power to pump them...

Although i agree with the statement there are machines out there with hiflow that are in and around the 60hp range.

Shane

 

[ClearViewGroup]

true you can pump hi-flow with a lower HP engine..however its not too common

 

[Terra Firma Scott]

Ya, I think I know bout 60 horses and high flow.....came from CAT that way but i believe they are a package added after dropped at the dealer..??...Anyway-works fine.....Just a beatch to clean out!...

 

[mouse]

i have a s185 hiflo, 61hp, about 60 lpm std flo and 100lpm hiflo and supplied that way ex factory.

100lpm = 26gpm give or take. hydraulic hp available theoretically at 3300 psi and 26 gpm = about 50hp. at 3000 psi 45hp. i cannot remember off the top of my head what pressure the 185 puts out but i suspect its 3000 psi.

a few basic scientific laws tells me that if you suck out 50hp for hydraulics on a 61hp machine you just aint got a whole lot left for anything else...

 

[wroughtn_harv]

Part of the reason that the smaller machines don't come hi-flow is just that...they are small...they don't have the space for the larger hydraulics or the engine power to pump them...

Hmmmm, my JCB 165 HF has about fifty horses and weighs about fifty four hundred pounds. Low flow is around 15 gpm and high flow is about twice that. The big downside of the high flow is it is a separate pump and it only runs one direction. So you can't reverse the direction like I would like when using the high flow to power my auger.

When the auger gets stuck I have to disconnect from the high flow circuit and hook up to the low flow one to back the auger out.

 

[rtdiggr]

I like the idea of a JCB the only problem is the closest dealer is about 1hour away. They do have a JCB 1110 track loader for $22000ish.

Harv i know you like your unit, but what do you think of the one arm? Obviously getting in and out would be 100% easier.

tks
Shane

 

[dfkrug]

The big downside of the high flow is it is a separate pump and it only runs one direction. So you can't reverse the direction like I would like when using the high flow to power my auger.

Interesting. Does your high flow pump rate vary only with engine speed, or
is there some sort of flow rate control valve in the circuit. A flow control
valve would let you vary the flow, but at the cost of eliminating
reversibility, I would think.

 

[Philscbx]

When the auger gets stuck I have to disconnect from the high flow circuit and hook up to the low flow one to back the auger out.

I would think an optional wired valve control on the auger, or in the machine could reverse the flow at will.

There are times when attachments are in reverse order like snow plows and switching flow is much easier than flipping the couplers in the field.

 

[skidsteer.ca]

I put a hi flow kit on my Nh ls160. Is only 42 net hp and as such would not make a good machine for applications that require hi flow and hi demand use of the wheels becuase of the lower hp. However it does work great for stump grinding and log splitting.
I picked the kit up off ebay for $400 and he install took about 3 days in the shop not hitting it too hard.
Ken

 

[wroughtn_harv]

I like the idea of a JCB the only problem is the closest dealer is about 1hour away. They do have a JCB 1110 track loader for $22000ish.

Harv i know you like your unit, but what do you think of the one arm? Obviously getting in and out would be 100% easier.

tks
Shane

Keep in mind JCB invented the Load all concept. They've been building single boom loaders forever. You can go to Machinery Trader and see them there handle ten thousand pounds and shoot up forty feet.

I really wanted an 1110 bad because it's the biggest JCB makes. But for doing what I would want to do with it I think I would want the big Takeuchi instead even though it doesn't have the door. That's because the couple of times I've used the Takeuchi I've found they just dig better than anything else. One guy explained to me the reason the Takeuchi is better is because the tracks aren't as wide and it gets down to get traction.

My JCB salesman has one client with two 1110's that does only ponds. He claims there's nothing better. You can't take as big as bite as you can with a bigger crawler loader, but you can a lot more little bites faster than they can.