skid steer quick attach or not?

[coldfingers]

Looking at a 4r series tractor, those of you that have loaders on 3 or 4 series tractors, do you like the skid steer quick attach over the pin on attachments?
Thanks.

 

[John_Mc]

I had pin on bucket on my tractor for years, and regretted it ever since purchasing. Several years ago, I switched to a SSQA system. It's been great. I actually use forks and a forestry grapple n my loader now.

BTW, I like the true SSQA better than the JD proprietary quick attach system. My neighbor has the JD system on his tractor, and as a result, we cannot share attachments. The SSQA is more universal, so a greater chance you can swap equipment between other tractors.

 

[ovrszd]

What John said.

Don't buy a new FEL without it.

 

[kennyd]

JD does not even offer a "pin-on" option in the larger tractors, so your choice is the JDQA, SSQA, or the euro/global carriers.

In a 4-series, I agree that SSQA is the best option, but for 3-series and smaller I think the JDQA is the best.

 

[4570Man]

A loader without QA is like a truck with the doors welded shut. Don’t buy it any other way. The JDQA is probably better in the application it’s used than SSQA but the pool of available implements for SSQA is a lot bigger. I would go with SSQA because I enjoy the freedom to buy used implements or rent something I can’t justify buying. If you only intend on buying new implements and never renting or borrowing implements then the JDQA is probably fine.

 

[John_Mc]

... The JDQA is probably better in the application it’s used than SSQA but the pool of available implements for SSQA is a lot bigger.

What is it about the JD quick attach that you like better in this application? It's been a while since I looked closely at one, but I did not notice anything "better", it was just different. On the other hand, I was not really looking to make a comparison at the time.

 

[beenthere]

I've just a bucket and set of forks for my 430 FEL and prefer the JD design rather than a more cumbersome SSQA used on the skidsteers. For the size of my FEL, there are no other attachments such as those used on the skidsteers with hyd. hookup that are of any use to me.

The lighter weight and tighter package of the JD design are preferred.

But no problem with anyone else using what they want....just saying....

 

[ovrszd]

I've just a bucket and set of forks for my 430 FEL and prefer the JD design rather than a more cumbersome SSQA used on the skidsteers. For the size of my FEL, there are no other attachments such as those used on the skidsteers with hyd. hookup that are of any use to me.

The lighter weight and tighter package of the JD design are preferred.

But no problem with anyone else using what they want....just saying....

Guess I don't know what they look like. Got some pics?

 

[4570Man]

What is it about the JD quick attach that you like better in this application? It's been a while since I looked closely at one, but I did not notice anything "better", it was just different. On the other hand, I was not really looking to make a comparison at the time.

I don’t like it better because it really limits your implement choices but I think it’s a lighter and simpler design.

 

[kennyd]

Guess I don't know what they look like. Got some pics?

Here is the JDQA setup:

 

[ovrszd]

Thanks Kenny. Depends on the attachment to align itself? Doesn't appear to have a structural method of keeping both sides at the same pitch until an attachment is added.

Probably a vey effective system. Just really hard to find attachments set up that way?

 

[kennyd]

Thanks Kenny. Depends on the attachment to align itself? Doesn't appear to have a structural method of keeping both sides at the same pitch until an attachment is added.

There is "tie bar" on the loader side to help keep the shoes aligned, but yes the structural integrity comes mainly from the attached implement. This is not unlike a SSQA setup in this regard.

Probably a vey effective system.

It is. It's easy, fast, and most importantly VERY light weight so it's ideal for the smaller tractors.

Just really hard to find attachments set up that way?

Maybe on the used market, but there are new items readily available from Frontier, Artillian, Everything Attachments, one importer of Chinesium stuff I won't mention, and other quality manufactures.

The reality is that on most sCUT's and CUT's there are really only three things you can effectively use, a bucket, some forks, and a lightweight grapple. Most all SSQA stuff that everybody says you can find cheap and interchange is really not usable due to the lower lift capacity, lack of hydraulics (or insufficient GPM flow if you have a 3rd function), or lower overall machine weight. Yes you can buy SSQA forks on Craigslist all day for ~$500, but they are usually 400 pounds and beat to crap.

Sorry for rambling a bit...

 

[DK35vince]

The reality is that on most sCUT's and CUT's there are really only three things you can effectively use, a bucket, some forks, and a lightweight grapple.

Don't forget snowplow.
I use bucket, forks and snow plow on my SSQA.

 

[Wagtail]

My 4105 came with the JDQA and I've never had a problem getting the relatively few attachments for a FEL in that configuration. (no requirement for a snowplow down here )

I've got a 4in1 bucket and a combination (swap around) fork/bale-spikes for mine and swapping those attachments around is a breeze. Were I to get a grapple in the future, I would simply tell the manufacturer what FEL I have and that it's got the JDQA = no problem. The JDQA is robust while saving you the added weight of the SSQA; which is ultimately designed for a skid-steer.

I haven't seen any SSQA systems used around my part of the world... it's "global" if anything.

 

[ovrszd]

There is "tie bar" on the loader side to help keep the shoes aligned, but yes the structural integrity comes mainly for the attached implement. This is not unlike a SSQA setup in this regard.



It is. It's easy, fast, and most importantly VERY light weight so it's ideal for the smaller tractors.



Maybe on the used market, but there are new items readily available from Frontier, Artillian, Everything Attachments, one importer of Chinesium stuff I won't mention, and other quality manufactures.

The reality is that on most sCUT's and CUT's there are really only three things you can effectively use, a bucket, some forks, and a lightweight grapple. Most all SSQA stuff that everybody says you can find cheap and interchange is really not usable due to the lower lift capacity, lack of hydraulics (or insufficient GPM flow if you have a 3rd function), or lower overall machine weight. Yes you can buy SSQA forks on Craigslist all day for ~$500, but they are usually 400 pounds and beat to crap.

Sorry for rambling a bit...

Good stuff Kenny. Thanks for educating me!!