So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti

   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti #1  

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I have decided to get into haying smaller lots. I am a new farmer that lives on 5 acres, and am tired of relying on others to come cut and bale my pasture. I totally understand why it isn't worth it to them. I asked around to see if other small land owners would be interested in having me cut and bale theirs and the response was overwhelming. I am also looking to expand into other money making ventures with the tractor. I will be fully licenced and insured and pay taxes.

I have narrowed my search down to the
kioti ck4010hst SE cab 40HP (0 down, no payments for 3 months, 0 percent for 84 months, 6 yr warranty)
Kioti NX6010 HST cab 60HP (0 down, 0 percent for 72 months, 6 yr warranty)

and the new bobcat ct5558 cab 58 HP (0 down, 0 percent for 84 months, 2 yr warranty)

I know that bobcat is basically a white Kioti.

I am torn because bobcat allows you to put their branded implements in the same financing deal and are offering $400 off if I buy two three point implements to the order

pricing is all pretty close. Kioti has a way longer warranty and their dealer is 3 miles from my house. Their dealer gets really good reviews (Jordan tractor sales in post falls, ID)
Bobcat is about a half hour from me, but their territory manager lives down the road and will deliver for free.

I am pretty sure I am overthinking this and any of these options would be great. What do you guys think I should do?
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti #2  
Kioti... longer warranty a real plus. I would be shocked if they wont deliver for free. Might even throw in a implement if you ask
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti #3  
Kioti dealer is 3 miles from house, and gets great reviews...

Didn't you just answer your own question?
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti
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#4  
yeah. I may have
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti
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#5  
for sure. they will deliver for free
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti #6  
Check the Bobcat dealer again. I'm in the same dilemma as you but with a compact tractor. The Bobcat will have the same warranty, but they advertise it differently. Bobcat will carry a 2 year bumper to bumper and 4 additional years for power train. That's the same warranty when I checked with Kioti but Kioti just lists it as 6 years.

You might also be able to get a free loader with the Bobcat with standard financing. When I did the math the savings more than covered the cost of the financing so it was a better deal in my situation.
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti #7  
Keep in mind this is the 2nd stint at tractors for Bobcat where they are made by Kioti with just different coloring...

Why would you buy a rebadged version with a shorter warranty knowing they may close up again?
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti
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Keep in mind this is the 2nd stint at tractors for Bobcat where they are made by Kioti with just different coloring...

Why would you buy a rebadged version with a shorter warranty knowing they may close up again?

It looks like they have the same warranty. See above
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti #9  
If your seriously planning to do mowing and baling of hay as a profitable business, maybe do some gravel roads or other tasks, then get the NX6010 HST. You won't regret the purchase.
 
   / So hard to decide... need input Bobcat/Kioti #10  
Before you buy the tractor, ask yourself, what is the LEAST manuverable machine? To me it is the hay baler. How wide is it and can you fit through the common size of gates lifestylers have? ie 10 ft baler does not go through a 9' 8" gate(10' post to post - 4" for gudgeons), very common. I drove for a commercial hay and silage contractor and lifestylers were often clueless about access.
The bext thing is what is the baler power demand and is the tractor heavy enough to handle the shunting effect of the plunger on your hills?
Lastly, get adjustable rims on the rear and set as wide as practical for hill work, (big difference in stability and feel).
I hope these questions help you pick the right tractor for your situation.
 

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