Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off

   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off #11  
Iplayfarmer- all of these suggestions are valid, but I would still go on the assumption (I know, that can be dangerous..:D) that you're not getting fuel delivery from the carb, but other things are OK.

Go ahead & try a new plug; can't hurt. As you say it runs when "primed" I wouldn't worry about the muffler yet, but it's true they will clog up.

I'm guessing you have one of those small Walbro carbs and you put in a carb kit- did the kit come with a diaphragm?

It sounds like your fuel line TO the carb is OK, as you indicate fuel will flow out when it's disconnected.

If it can't get fuel from the carb, which is what sounds like is going on, there are a few possibilities:

1. The diaphragm uses the pulsing pressure in the crankcase to flex back & forth and "pump" fuel through a checkvalve. If the diaphragm has a hole, or is not seated/sealed properly, it won't funtion correctly. There is also that "bleed port", an opening into the crankcase area behind the carb to expose the diaphragm to CC pressures. Also, the carb gasket needs to have a good seal.

2. The cyclical pressure in the crankcase is caused by the movement of the piston up & down, creating both a negative and a positive pressure in the crankcase, alternating between the two. Piston coming down (power stroke)= CC positive pressure, going up (compression)= negative. If there is a compromise in crankcase seals, you won't get the necessary pressure differentials to operate the diaphragm, and if the negative pressure isn't strong enough, it won't pull fuel & air in through the reed valve. But again, as it DOES run --as long as it has fuel-- I'd be betting the reed valve's most likely OK.

The bottom crankshaft seal is usually the culprit, but there are a couple of other seals as well; you'd have to take it apart to see for sure. As far as the reed valve, if it looks OK and seems to seal (can you blow through it backwards?) it's probably OK. Look for burning, cracking, or coking.

3. Any compromise in the seals/gaskets can be a problem... suggestions about the primer bulb, if it has one, are good.

As your machine will run when primed, I think you've already eliminated a lot of other stuff....:eek:

Sorry this was somewhat rambling! Keep looking for why the carb isn't delivering fuel.
 
   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off #13  
I would agree with IrvngJ, I've had these problems with those little carbs and it can be a major pain to fix. General cause is lack of constant fuel flow. The primer forcibly pulls gas from the tank into the carb and returns the over flow back. When you push down on the primer, does it seem hard to push, does it refill quickly or slowly? Did you replace the fuel lines on the primer as well as the main to the carb?

Also did you replace the fuel filter? That is part of the whole system as well. With out a filter it will not maintain a constant draft on the tank. The echo's filters are decent filters since they don't have the metal ends on them that fall aport in ethenal mixed gas. If you have a filter that has the metal button at the end replace it. It will clog the carb in a heart beat and make it a paper weight when the stuff hardens.

As with any advice that is free take it for what its worth.
 
   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off #14  
Probably to late here, but most older weedeater problems can be traced to a spilt in the fuel line in the tank. I've had to replace the lines on my sthil trimmers a coupla times over the years...:)
 
   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off
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#15  
Probably to late here, but most older weedeater problems can be traced to a spilt in the fuel line in the tank. I've had to replace the lines on my sthil trimmers a coupla times over the years...:)

In this case it needed a carburetor kit. I gave in and took it to the local small engine shop. They cleaned the carburetor with some kind of jewelery cleaner and put a kit in it.

It runs great now.
 
   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off #16  
Probably an ultrasound tank, Iplayfarmer-- great way to remove crud from teensy places. Glad you got it up & running!:)
 
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#17  
Glad you got it up & running!:)

Me too.

After I took the trimmer in, I saw this thread about soda blasting. Next time I may do the soda blasting thing to clean a carb. The concept seems sound, and it beats poking around with a wire or tip cleaner.
 
   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off #18  
Wow- neat idea!!

Ultrasound works great, but I don't have one; last time I took my 750 carbs to my motorcycle shop, I got hit with $30 for the "soaking" (hm-m-m pun there?)....

Well worth it, but the soda idea is now on my list- thanks!
 
   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off #19  
I have replace primer bulbs on 3 Stilh weed trimmers that were all stored inside. The just don't like the ethanol and waste away. New bulbs have lasted awhile now so they must be a different plastic that is ethanol resistant.
 
   / Stihl Trimmer Ticking Me Off #20  
the 50 pound compression check tells me you are done.
 

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