It looks like the tractor I'm thinking of buying (Yanmar F or FX series-25 to 30 HP) does not have a sub frame kit made for it. That means I will need to settle for a 3 point hook-up. The last time I used a hoe with a 3 point hook-up was many (18?) years ago. It was a terrible experience--wiggled and swung all over the place, almost completely out of control. People have been saying the new stuff is much better designed, almost as good as a frame mount. I really need to know if this is right. If a buy a tractor that uses a 3-point backhoe and it sucks I'm gonna be stuck with something I don't like. And I know you wouldn't want that to happen to me. Right? I hope there is someone out there that has ACTUALLY USED both types and can clearly explain the difference. Thanks guys---you're doin a great job. By the time I make this decision I'll probably be tooo old to use the damn thing.