Subdividing the countryside

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Tractors4u

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After reading in the Related Topics forum about Stowe Vermont, in particular Boondox's comments, it kind of relates to what is going on in my neighborhood.

I grew up in Limestone county Alabama. Our county seat is Athens, a small town with a current population of just under 20,000. Where I lived we were surrounded by cotton fields and the neighbors we had, had always been there. In the 22 years I lived with my parents I remember only 2 houses being built on the one mile stretch of road between our house and the 4 lane highway.

This area of the county is called East Limestone and in the last 5 to 10 years it has become something of a "bedroom" community to Huntsville and Madison Alabama. These two cities are about 15 and 10 miles away respectively with a population totaling 380,000. A large number of people coming to these cities are there for the high tech jobs that NASA and the Army offer. Once they find out how much property in our county cost, they decide to make a move to the country. The developers are turning the farm land into subdivions. Every builder thinks they are a master developer. They put a horseshoe street through a cotton field, give it a cutesy name like "Cottonwood Acres" and here comes the new neighbors. Other than it getting crowded around here, they want the city conviences out here in the country. They want dry cleaners, pizza shops, doctor's offices, and etc. When they developed the farmland beside my parents house, a realtor I go to church with heard me complaining about it. Her response was, "it is great, it will make there property value go up!" Personally I don't want my property value going up. That in turn means higher property tax. I guess if you are buying your subdivision house to live in until your next job transfer and you can make some money when you sell that is fine. I don't plan to sell.

My brother built his house on 8 acres of family land 2 years ago. Last week one of the adjoining cotton fields had about 20 holes dug for perk tests. He already had one subdivision in front of him. The kids on their ATVs constantly cut across his property and ride around his pond.

Next week I will be closing on 18 acres of land I am buying from my grandmother. Two sides of the property has road frontage, one side of the property is in a flood zone and the remaining side has personal property with 3 established homes on it. I feel lucky that I have the oppurtunity to get some property that will give me some privacy and enough of it to still live the country life.
 
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Brent, I am sort of on boths sides of this issue. I'm one of those city people who moved out to the country. But I think I may be a bit different than many of the city folks who move out. I want open spaces. In my case chose to move into my neighborhood before it was built, I met with the developer and told him I wanted "that hill over there" and when the 155 acres was subdivided into 32 lots, I ended up with 2 lots and 10 acres. I picked the hill for a couple reasons, it is a hill (something rare in Indiana) and the land behind it is designated flood plane for about 1/2 of a mile with a creek that runs through it. I like the privacy the flood plane provides in terms of a buffer that will prevent future construction for many many years to come.

BUT MY NEIGHBORS are a mixed lot. One of them wants guardrails and speed bumps and road signs. I'm sure they'd love a McD to move in up the road too!
 
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I have had the same issue as I'm sure many of us have. Just last fall I went to my hunting area on a farm and there were new posted signs there. Someone finally started paying the farmer to lease his farm area. Been there 15 years and I got pushed out for the all mighty dollar.
Housing is the same here also. We bought the last 7.5 acre lot on our road which is the worst one in the area. With time and money I'll get it right but it's hard to see progress encroaching on lots of us.
 
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That is a problem everywhere. Here in Arizona we blame those @#^% Californians. However, the blame belongs elsewhere. Consider my family...45 years ago, we represented one household. Now we are 10 households, and our families are not large--one to four kids each.
 
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The "urban sprawl" is inevitable and the city folks will keep moving to the country to escape the city, but will still want to keep the parts of city life that they want....Oh well. Just buy all the land you can and build in the middle of it /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ben
 
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Who do we Californians get to blame? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif, With 35 million folks here they all had to come from somewhere. Most of my neighbors came from the SF Bay area. From there it's anyones guess, but I know many, many are right coasters. The US population is what, about 300 million, by 2050 it will exceed 450 million making us the 3rd largest country in the world after China which will fall to second after India. If you think you have urban sprawl now, hold on baby, you havent seen anything yet. Arizona is a mixture from all over the country, ask Muhammad. Lot's of easterners move their for the weather, I guess extreme hot is preferable to extreme cold. Home prices are still semi affodable in Arizona as well.
Check out the population density on the following link. RI is highest at 1003 people per square mile, Mass is 809.8, NY is 401.9, NJ is 1134, California is 217.2, Wyoming 5.1 and Alaska the least people per sq mile at 1.1. Wyoming is the smallest of all states in population.
 
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I grew up in the country and have that state of mind.

I have just about shot a co-worker of mine on his neighbors behalf, just because most city dwellers gone country just don't "get it".

My co-worker lives in a newly created development in a very rural area. There are about 40 houses in his development and it borders farmland. My co-workers plot is on the outside edge of the development looking over a beautiful hillside. Well the farmer that owns the land next to him decides he is going to start doing some auto work on the side (this area is all Zoned RA, so you can pretty much do as you please), and starts putting up a steel building next to my co-worker. Blocking his view of the country side. My co-worker goes berserck and starts calling and having them investigate his permits. To the country folk around here, inspectors take their life into their own hands if they try to inspect something you put up on your own property. My co-worker rants and raves for weeks that he can't put it up without telling people around him what he is doing.

My response to all this to my co-worker was just how I feel about it. It's his property, he can do with it as he pleases. He doesn't owe anything to you to explain or otherwise what he is doing. He is a country fellow, and I'm absolutely sure that he is trying to block HIS view of the development ruining the nice peaceful countryside. He is lucky he didn't take some buckshot for making the guy jump through hoops with inspectors. Luckily the guy had all the permits. That is very rare here, and I agree with the country folk, that I'll build it as I see fit and fits my needs. I'm off-track, but my co-worker ended up taking it as far as trying to get the area re-zoned (unsuccessfully) to disallow the guys side business.

Even if it had been re-zoned, I would still have built the building, called it a steel barn for my tractor, and then hung 50-60 halogen lights on the side of the thing facing my co-workers house and wired them to a timer that cut them on all night long, or better yet made them blink all night long. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
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I now live about 100 miles east of Dallas. There is a minor building boom going on in our county. Every time I drive the back roads I find there is another sub division being built or another half dozen houses have gone up. The tendency here is for the family farm to be sold off and split up into 5 -10 acre ranchettes for people who are either retiring to the area or for those who want to escape Dallas and don't mind the 100 mile daily or weekly commute. Some even fly from the County Airport to Dallas daily. I can't blame them for seeking a better quality of life in the country in which to bring up their families but it's sure getting crowded around here.
 
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You grow your own! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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