Swap tires to increase track

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patanders

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Satoh S470D Buck
I have a Satoh S470D Buck, and property that has very few flat places. The Buck is pretty narrow and "tipsy."

Both front and rear wheels have hub offsets from the centerline. If I swap tires side-to-side to increase the track, and therefore the stability on the hillsides, will it put undue stress on the wheel hub bearings?

I know this isn't really a customization, but wasn't sure where else to post.

Thanks,

Pat
 
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Oops, I meant swap wheels and tires side-to-side...
 
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at work I have a Mitsubishi with a loader. I swaped the tires so the dish is out and it works fine . It scares the heck out of me sometimesthis way . I would not want run it again with out the dish out .it has been running for four years so far no problems.
 

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Thanks, Porta Mill. I talke to a mechanic at work today, and he agrred with you. Should be no problem. Thanks.
 
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Guys, Are you saying that you flip the front rims around so that the track is increased? or widened? Good info but i have read a dozen threads that say with a FEL it is too much stress on front bearings. Are you running an FEL? I ask because i too would like to turn my front rims dish out but a:(m affraid of doing damage.
 
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Guys, Are you saying that you flip the front rims around so that the track is increased? or widened? Good info but i have read a dozen threads that say with a FEL it is too much stress on front bearings. Are you running an FEL? I ask because i too would like to turn my front rims dish out but a:(m affraid of doing damage.

My MT180 with loader has all 4 swapped over to widen the track.
1300 hrs and no problems as of yet.
In fact my frts are not original wheels and have wider imprint.
3/4's of my usage involves loader work, and hard at that as I dig with a tooth bar a lot.

I have never driven with the narrow setup and nor do I wish to try.

Mitsubishi actually offered a block to extend the track as an option so I guess their design was made to accept wide stance.

And my rears are loaded as well as were the fronts by the dealer.
Fronts no longer are but were for about 700 hrs until calcium ate up a rim, hence the wider non mitsu rims.
I can attest that there was no difference in stability between front loaded vs unloaded.

Front 'widened out' is harder on arm-strong steering however you get used to it with time. I do check the frt often for bearing slop but so far so good.
 
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Most ag tractors are designed to adjust width to accomodate rows, My JD can swithch sides as well as flip center in wheel for 2" increments. I am not familiar with the satoh but I would not hesitate if it were mine.
 
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If it is an automotive style wheel.........
Seems like it would depend on the bolt holes in the rim. Can it be reversed and not have a problem with the tapered bolt holes. Ag style wheels may be different......

My older JD compact, with automotive style rims, has two set of holes. One set for each direction. Fronts as well as rears........

Good luck
Wyo
 
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Rear wheels are designed to be moved in almost infinite settings.

Fronts should not be dished out, stress will crack the rim.
 
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Because the front axle pivots, moving the front tires outboard doesn't really increase lateral stability.
 

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