TBN Next Steps

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rancar

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To Muhammad and all other TBNers,

I'm a new member to TractorByNet and want to say Muhammad has done a marvelous job of creating a website chock-full of incredible information. He's created a networking forum whereupon hundreds of tractor owners gather, some religiously on an every day basis, to generously share their knowledge on issues related to compact tractor manufacturing, ownership, operations, safety, and financing. This is much needed. With my imminent purchase of a new JD4710, I sought out a website such as this to obtain greater knowledge of compact tractors for the simple purpose of educating myself. When I registered as a member, my knowledge of compact tractors was maybe a 2 on a scale of 10. After spending countless hours reading and researching the numerous threads, I'd say my knowledge has improved to about a 5. Before I order my new tractor, I hope to increase this knowledge base to a 7 or 8 if not more. So, thank you Muhammad for your time and resources and to all TBNers who freely and generously share their knowledge and experiences.

Knowing that Muhammad is now conducting a survey of members to find out how better yet our needs could be served (eg, subscription magazine as well as other things), I'd like to offer the following suggestion as a possible major next step as TBN evolves.

FORMALLY ORGANIZE AS AN ASSOCIATION

Logistics to set this up may be time consuming and time lines are flexible. Likewise, organizational rules and by-laws (formal, informal, etc) would have to be fully explored. Here though are some pertinent roles and benefits.

Organizational Intent

Formal organization would provide an official voice that supports the membership in their efforts to enhance understanding of and to influence compact tractor manufacturing, ownership, operations, safety, and financing. Serve as an information resource, providing advocacy on tractor issues involving manufacturing, ownership, operations, safety, and financing. Offer various networking opportunities and other services to it's members.

Benefits, Products, and Services

o Political/Legislative Lobbying: Broaden and intensify efforts at state and/or federal levels to enact legislation making it easier to own and operate tractors and related equipment. An example may be making a concerted organizational effort to work with states' respective legislative leaders to lobby for and obtain tax-exempt sales of tractor purchases. [Side Note: I don't know of other states, but Muhammad in his book suggests that most states require imposition of sales tax on tractor sales. But here in New York where I live, tractor sales are tax exempt provided they are used in commercial farm production. This includes ranching, nursury, greenhouse, orchard, vineyard, or other operations that produce agricultural, horticultural, or floricultural commodities. While I personally don't farm, we rent our tillable land to a tenant farmer. My local JD dealer says no problem. I would qualify for tax exempt status provided I complete a pertinent exemption certificate. For me, this represents a savings of a little bit over $2K when I place my order in another month or so].

o Industry Lobbying: Lobby farm equipment industry for improvements in equipment quality, safety, and efficiency. Seek association discounts (ie, similar to corporate membership discounts granted by some companies for sales of their products or services) from manufacturers and/or authorized dealers for members on tractor and related equipment purchases.

o Regional/State Chapter Meeting: While the TBN website discussion forums are a great way for networking, they're somewhat impersonal and don't fully capture the many nuances of communicating face to face nor does it provide time to fully explore pertinent issues in a personal way. Chapter meetings (formal or informal) may provide greater opportunities for personal and small group networking, camaraderie, and time to delve more fully into issues of concern to the membership.

What I see happening here at TractorByNet is incredible. There are so few sites that offer what TBN is offering. All of you folks have countless years of knowledge and experience, and what's nice is you so freely share it. This just seems like a communications vehicle that has far greater latent potential to evolve into something even far greater than what it currently is.

Well, I throw all this out for discussion. What are your thoughts?
 
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Man, then you'd have to get people to agree on stuff, like orange, green, blue, rainbow, hst, gears, R1s, R4s, 2wd, 4wd, big red cups and pink tractors. However, if I could get a baseball cap out of it, I might consider it /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif.
 
   / TBN Next Steps #3  
Welcome aboard and I hope your tractor arrives soon. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

You have some good ideas that could work,but for some of us free time would be a factor to meet etc..

I believe TBN growing at a comfortable,for if TBN grows to fast we might become part of todays rat race.

I could almost /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif it now..Kubota,JD,NH,Kioti,IH, etc...2WD & 4WD trying to set still while craving for a cup of coffee /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif or someone by mistake takes another coffee. /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

I'm still waiting on the day we can purchase a baseball cap and stickers w/ TBN logo,for that alone will tell other TBNer's a fellow TBNer is at hand. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Again welcome to TBN. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
   / TBN Next Steps #4  
rancar,

Aha.... your profession is truely displayed by your post - a Planner. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Welcome to TBN. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

What a thought? I would have to mull over the idea.

Terry
 
   / TBN Next Steps #5  
Robert,

I am sure everyone involved in TBN will all agree that Muhammad has done an incredible job with this website. It is a jewel. I personally like it because its very informal and fun to use/participate. I have been in various highly organized clubs and groups over the years. I do not enjoy them anymore, they are to much like "work". I look at TBN as just a bunch of guys/gals who like to "shoot the breeze" and maybe learn something along the way. Just my $.05.
 
   / TBN Next Steps #6  
I have only been associated with this site for a short time, a little over 6 months. I can not begin to list the things I have learned from those who contribute. Muhammad has done a wonderful job creating a forum where ideas can be exchanged, where good information can be obtained, and where a lot of good fun can be had.

I'd even venture to say that because of this site, the advice, and the warnings given it may have saved more than one person from serious injury or worse. I now wear my tractor seat belt because of the things I've seen and read here.

I think this site is having a great effect on dealers which will trickle back to the manufacturers over time. Any one who has spent some time here is well equiped when they go to a dealer to discuss prices, options, repairs, or any other tractor related subject. Once a dealer finds out his customers understand what they are takling about they tend to treat them differently.

This is a great site it is hard to imagine how it can be better. Sometimes more isn't always better.

Randy
 
   / TBN Next Steps #7  
<font color=blue>TBN... It is a jewel...</font color=blue>

Wal... very well said...

I love the way it is... extremely informal and we all respect one another no matter "how off the wall" an opinion may be.../w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif/w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif

It's kinda like a man and woman living a beautiful life together for 30+ years and then decide to "make it formal" and get married.../w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

I wouldn't want the formally and rigidness that goes along with the "charter" idea...

I truly believe Robert has his heart in the right place and overly excited about TBN... but hey... if if ain't broke... don't try to fix it... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

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<font color=blue>...Sometimes more isn't always better...</font color=blue>

Randy...

Amen...

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   / TBN Next Steps #9  
What can I say? Mostly, my sentiments have already been stated. Muhammad has created an atmosphere on this site that is great, and all the TBN'rs have adapted to that mores put forth. Great site, great camaraderie, great info. What MORE can one ask? Where's my hat??/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
   / TBN Next Steps #10  
Well said!

Hats, or t-shirts would be nice though/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 

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