TC21D 914a mid mount help

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ddog

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can anyone out there help me with some pics of a 914a mid mount deck on a late 90's tc21d with a NH loader and R4's. I'm looking for a used 60" 914a deck and would like to see exactly how the mounting hardware looks on a tc21. I get that specific mounting brackets are needed depending on the tractor, but it also seems not all 60" 914a decks are the same. I found several used decks but don't really know for sure if they will work.
 
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I no longer have my TC21D, but it had the NH 7106 FEL, 914A MMM and turfs. I bought it in Sept 99. I replaced it with a TC24DA with the 12LA FEL and it also has the 914A MMM rear discharge and turfs, bought in Nov 04. I don't have any pictures of the TC21 handy, but I can tell you the new 914 is the same as the old one I had.

The only difference I can see is the rear lift bracket on the deck has 2 holes. Otherwise the decks are identical as far as I know. The rear holes are for the later models and the front holes are for earlier models. I believe the cutoff date was in 03 and I think(?) it was also due to the differences with the FEL. The newer ones used the 12LA and the older ones used the 7106. I'll look in my manual to verify.

If I can locate any of my TC21 pics I'll post them. If you can post any pics of the decks your looking at, I'll see if I can help. Or if you have any specific questions, ask and I'll try to answer them.
 
   / TC21D 914a mid mount help
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Thanks for the reply and pics! Wow, the deck looks spotless! What I'm really curious about is how the deck looks mounted to the tractor. How does the 3 pt lift it? How do the loader and deck use the same bolt holes on the tractor? Do you know if R4's make a difference as far as where the mounting brackets are located on the deck? There must be some type of serial number or something that identifies what 914a goes with what tractor depending on loader and possibly tire situation.
How do you lke the TC24DA compaired to the TC21? I like my 21D but sometimes I wish I had more HP without having a larger tractor. I cut about 8 acres with 3pt mower, alot of it is hillside and when the grass gets high the 21D bogs down a bit. I find high range useless for anything but flat land if the loader and box blade are on. I've had the tractor for 10 yrs now and have never really been happy with how the 3 pt rear discharge deck cuts and it leaves heavy clumpy lines of clippings. I'm thinking a mid mount will cut nicer, spread clippings out better and tractor will handle better on my hillsides.
The 914a I found is on ebay
914A NEW HOLLAND 60" MID-MOUNT ROTARY MOWER DECK - eBay (item 350049766581 end time May-16-08 18:07:16 PDT)

Thanks again for your help!
 
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ddog,
The MMM and the FEL use the same bolt holes to mount the brackets for each. If I remember right the MMM brackets go on first then the loader brackets. The eBay ad says it will fit a TC21D IF your serial number is above UF33357. If it's 10 years old, you may be below that serial number and the brackets are not right for your application. With the decals I see on it, it is a fairly new mower deck and may not fit a 10 year old TC21D. But just for reference, it will fit my TC18 which is a 2003 model, 5 years old.
 
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I've got a TC29D and a 60" 914 MMM. The deck has mounting holes in it which get pinned to mounting HW on the tractor. The mounting HW has linkages and 'stuff' that go to the 3pt system. If the ebay deck has the mounting HW than you should be OK.

If you really want to figure out the parts list, use this link:

New Holland Mowing

any NH owner should bookmark it!!!

Good Luck
 
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ddog said:
Thanks for the reply and pics! Wow, the deck looks spotless! What I'm really curious about is how the deck looks mounted to the tractor. How does the 3 pt lift it? How do the loader and deck use the same bolt holes on the tractor? Do you know if R4's make a difference as far as where the mounting brackets are located on the deck? There must be some type of serial number or something that identifies what 914a goes with what tractor depending on loader and possibly tire situation.
How do you lke the TC24DA compaired to the TC21? I like my 21D but sometimes I wish I had more HP without having a larger tractor. I cut about 8 acres with 3pt mower, alot of it is hillside and when the grass gets high the 21D bogs down a bit. I find high range useless for anything but flat land if the loader and box blade are on. I've had the tractor for 10 yrs now and have never really been happy with how the 3 pt rear discharge deck cuts and it leaves heavy clumpy lines of clippings. I'm thinking a mid mount will cut nicer, spread clippings out better and tractor will handle better on my hillsides.
The 914a I found is on ebay
914A NEW HOLLAND 60" MID-MOUNT ROTARY MOWER DECK - eBay (item 350049766581 end time May-16-08 18:07:16 PDT)

Thanks again for your help!

Your welcome and sorry for the late reply. The deck only has 3 seasons of mowing 2.5 acres, so it's still fairly new.

I'll attach a few pics of the deck and it's mounts on my 24DA. If you need a closer shot of any part or any other questions, just ask. With the exception of the 12LA FEL assembly and the 2 holes in the rear lift bracket, it looks and mounts identical to my old 21D. I assume you have a mid pto, since it's a 21D? You'll also need the mounting brackets to put the MMM on. Did that deck from ebay include them? Repeating what the Inspector said...locate your serial # and compare it before you proceed with that deck.

The manual states that if using a 54" deck with R4, you have to pay attention to the front casters when raising the deck. If they're swung forward, they might contact the R4's. Shouldn't be a problem with the 60" since the casters are located 6"(?) further out.

TC21D versus TC24DA...IMO...with the exception of the front clip, ie-hood, cowl, dash, headlights...it's the same tractor. Everyday normal usage feels the same as the 21D. I do notice one improvement though. One area I mow is a 25degree slope. With the 21D, depending on how tall the grass was, it would labor slightly when climbing this grade and mowing. With the 24DA, it tools right up effortlessly. Not a bit of strain. It's probably worth mentioning too that the tire size increased 2" in height compared to the 21D. I don't know if the final gear ratio was changed to accommodate the increase or the increased HP made the difference. But whatever it was made a noticeable improvement. Sounds like you might benefit as well since you have alot of hills.

Ditto on the high range...it's more of a road gear if anything IMO. However, I do find it useful in reverse at times.

As for the windrows of grass clippings...it's the nature of the beast. If I let the grass get too tall, I get the same results as you. The MMM doesn't eliminate THAT problem. It took me awhile to get a handle on it, but here's what I learned from TBN as well as my own experience. First and foremost...keep up with the grass if you want to use a finish mower. Following the "never cut more than 1/3" makes all the difference. I know it's not always possible, but for the times I can't stay ahead, I just cut it a second time for the 'clean look'

Next would be the deck adjustments. Be sure it's level side to side, and then set the rear about 1/2-3/4" higher than the front. note: this is what I do for a rear discharge. If you want the side discharge, I doubt you need to set the rear higher? The NH MMM uses a cushion lift system that is intended to carry part of the weight of the deck. It is not designed to operate with all the deck's weight on the deck's wheels. Once you get that cushion system set right, a little fine tuning will raise the rear of the deck higher. It sounds more complicated than it is.

Last but not least...I prefer Gator blades instead of NH's high lift blades. Some folks here swear by them, others swear AT them:p To prove my point, I'll attach a pic of part of my lawn. That alone should be proof enough!

Hope this helps..
 
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After looking at that ebay MMM deck again, I noticed a few things. The ad says it's old inventory? Yet it has the 2 holes in the rear lift bracket on the deck. It also doesn't have the cross brace connecting the front lift brackets like mine does. The spindle covers are bolted from the top, mine are on the side. Maybe these differences are due to it being a side discharge? Can't see why, but maybe???

Between my old 99 MMM and my 03 MMM, the ONLY difference is the 2 hole positions on the rear lift bracket. The 99 had one. Everything else is identical to a T. I wonder what year that ebay deck was made?

If the seller is a dealer, I'd be looking for a few answers if I was to bid on it.

JMO
 
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I know this is an old post however TCBoomer mentioned Gator Blades.vs Highlift that is.. can you expand on where to get them? are they pretty standard?
 

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