TC40A First Impressions

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fire72

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Coshocton County, Ohio
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Ford 8N, John Deere 2010
I've had my new TC40A for two weeks now, and put on about 35 hours. It has the 12x12 shuttle shift, loaded R1's, and a 16LA loader. It replaces a '99 1920, also with the 12x12, R1's, and 7308 loader. The first two weeks have been primarily brush cutting, with a small amount of loader work and grading.

Things I've noticed so far, both good and bad:

- This is a lot more tractor than the old 1920. Same size tires, similar weight and chassis size, but much more usable HP and lift capacity. HP is 40 gross/35 PTO, up from 33 gross/29 PTO. Seems to lift a full loader bucket more easily, even though it is 72" and the 7308 was 60".

- Side mounted loader control is great. Much more convenient reach, although I'm still getting used to the new location.

- This tractor needs a 6' rotary cutter. My old 5' KK almost covers the wheels, but in grasses and moderate brush the tractor doesn't know it's back there. A 6' would increase my acreage per hour and fit the size of the tractor better.

- There are way too many little things under the tractor for brush to catch. Twice already I've had to reconnect bullet connectors on what appears to be the neutral safety switch on the left side of the transmission before the tractor would start. I need to spend some time with zip ties and wire loom to try to at least reduce this kind of annoyance.

- This tractor cools much better than my 1920, but it should still have a radiator prescreen. The first big job with the TC40 was finishing a 25 acre bush hogging job I started with the 1920. With the old tractor, I was stopping every 20 minutes to clean seeds and chaff out of prescreen when the temp would reach the top of the safe range. With the TC40, the grill screens stop most of the junk before it even gets close to the radiator, and are very easy to clean. The temp stays in the safe range much longer. Some debris still gets onto the radiator, though, and has to be brushed out. NH could have avoided that by spending a few extra bucks on a removeable screen. Even the little plastic screen like JD uses on the newer models would help.

- As I am not a fan of hydrostatic transmissions on CUT size tractors (even though my garden tractor has one), I don't miss the extra goodies that the DA model would have over mine. However, the fenders do irritate me. Where the DA has the lift levers, range selectors, etc. mounted in plastic panels in the fenders, the A model just has big hollow dents with nothing in them. I didn't buy this tractor for looks; it's for work, not for taking to car shows, but the dang thing looks like they forgot to finish building it. How much could it cost to make a cover panel or something? On the other hand, I prefer the pierced steel floor decking over the rubber mats on the DA. The mats on my 1920 got a little slippery when wet or muddy, and sometimes tried to slide around.

- The new tractor rides smoother than the old one. Not sure exactly why this is; same size tires, similar weight and chassis size. Track is somewhat wider, so maybe that is part of the reason. Whatever the cause, my back appreciates it after a full day in the saddle.

- Overall length is about a foot longer than the 1920, due mostly to the extra reach on the 16LA. That thing is a LONG way out front (and I don't even want to think about the 17LA on supersteer tractors). That really pushes it on the length of my 18' trailer when I have the rotary cutter on, and will get worse when I upgrade to a 6' cutter. It's going to be a while until I can upgrade to a 20' 10K trailer; best fix I can think of for now is to add some suitcase weights to keep the front and down and a grill guard for brush protection and leave the loader at home on bush hog jobs. That will be OK on grass and light brush, but I won't bust heavy brush without the loader on. I'll have to figure that one out. Maybe hang on to the 5' cutter for those jobs.

- I can get used to this idea of being able to see the loader. No more hanging halfway out of the seat trying to figure out where the edge of the bucket is. The sloped hood and extra length of the loader arms work well.

- The 1920 had clips to hang the seatbelt when the tractor is not in use. It was a small convenience, but one I wish I still had.

Just some observations from my first two weeks with the new tractor. Opinions, anyone?
 
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I also ended up swapping from my trusty 1998 Model 1920 to a 2004 TC-40 awhile back. Overall, I am happy with the swap. I also like the metal floorboard - the rubber mat was torn on my 1920 and I was told by the dealer that no replacements were available. The TC-40 engine is quieter and smoother, but lacks some of the lower rpm torque - it needs a little more RPM just piddling around.

Neither of mine had a loader - I have loaders on larger tractors. I use mine for 6' finish mower, raking hay, box blading, augering, post driving, etc. My 1920 had 3 suitcase weights on the front. I have not bought them for the TC-40 because they cost so dang much - but it needs them.

The biggest thing that I miss is the super-handy toolbox that the 1920 had right behind the seat - where a tractor toolbox should be. I need to fabricate one for the TC-40, but haven't got around to it.

One other drawback - mine has the oversize industrial tires. The extra width means that the lower hitch arms can't swing open as wide as I like when attaching implements. I do like the pin-in-hole anti-sway bars over the turnbuckle type on the 1920. Overall, both of these blue tractors have been great workhorses that are so easy to use. My brother loved the 1920 so much when he had used it in the past, he bought it from me.
 
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<font color="blue"> The biggest thing that I miss is the super-handy toolbox that the 1920 had right behind the seat - where a tractor toolbox should be. I need to fabricate one for the TC-40, but haven't got around to it. </font>

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I don't know what may be available for the TC40DA, but my TC40A has a toolbox on the left fender. It's just a flimsy plastic box pinned to a stamped steel bracket. In all honesty it's a pretty cheesy design, but at least it holds my spare pins and suchlike.

Further observations:

- The 16LA is less finicky to remove and reinstall than the 7308. The old one wasn't exactly difficult, usually taking about three minutes to go on or off, but the new one is a little easier to line up. It always took a little fiddling to get the lower latches properly positioned on the 7308, and, lacking a solid parking block to push against, the tractor tended to push the loader around like a dog chasing an ice cube on a tile floor.

- I'm not entirely sure the new independent PTO is an improvement. Where I notice it the most is while rotary cutting. With the old two stage clutch, if the bush hog started chewing on a rock or log hidden down in the grass, a quick stomp on the clutch both stopped forward movement and took power off the blades until I could lift the deck. With the independent PTO, all that does is stop the tractor, and I have to get on the three point lift as quick as I can, since I don't dare yank the PTO out at full RPM. I'm sure NH had a reason for building it the way they did, but the way in which it affects me is not an improvement.

- The transmission does not shift very smoothly. I noticed this the most the first few hours, and it seems to be improving. We'll call it a break in issue for now and keep an eye on it.

Overall a darn nice tractor that I think will serve my needs for years. I'll give it an A- for the first grading period, and see if it improves as we get used to each other.
 
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Now that you mention it, I am also less than impressed by the PTO arrangement. I like the independent clutch as I am accustomed to it on my larger tractors, but I despise the PTO brake. How are you supposed to hook up a driveshaft on an implement that you can't rotate by hand?

Thanks to PineRidge for the link to your toolbox fabrication. I will probably do something similar.

At 66 hours, I am also still waiting for the gear shifter linkage to loosen up or I am going to diassemble it and see if I can't lubricate it.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Now that you mention it, I am also less than impressed by the PTO arrangement. I like the independent clutch as I am accustomed to it on my larger tractors, but I despise the PTO brake. How are you supposed to hook up a driveshaft on an implement that you can't rotate by hand? )</font>

You know, my father in law left me a piece that hooks onto the PTO shaft and spins freely in one direction (the opposite that the PTO turns) so that the driveshaft can attach pretty easily. I had the problem trying to hook up things when they didn't quite line up - very frustrating. I don't know where he got it, but it seems to work well enough, except that it doesn't positively lock on the PTO. The three point tends to keep the mower (or whatever) in place and that tends to keep the drive shaft from coming off. Coming off has not been an issue yet, but it would be nice if this thing had a little button or something that would lock on the PTO shaft. Anyhow, it seems to solve the problem of the PTO and drive shaft not lining up.

Matt
 
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matt .... does that thing have grease zerts on it? ... if so .. remove 'em then rotate the shaft while looking down into the zert hole ... I think you'll see a through hole where a drive pin is suppose to go to permanently mount it to the pto ... and ya outta do that. .. you can get them at TSC
 
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Mike,

Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.

Matt
 

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