TC55 Steering
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markie61
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What kind of problem? With or without weight in the bucket? What RPM's?
Most common problem if steering is sluggish: low air pressure in the front tires.
We can probably help with more information....
Mark
What kind of problem? With or without weight in the bucket? What RPM's?
Most common problem if steering is sluggish: low air pressure in the front tires.
We can probably help with more information....
Mark
Thanks the problem is any amount of weight in the bucket, the turning range is dramatically decreased. The weight can be as little as a half of bucket of dry gravel. When this is done, I lose ninety-five (95) percent of my steering capability while at a stand still. more than just not being able to steer standing still. problems steering while the bucket is full, empty or off it will turn only so far to the right or left then when you move it turns further making hard to work with in tight spot my dealer has tested all psi and it at the max according to NH spec. ps the tire are loaded and it has a counter weiaght on the 3 pt hitch the more I use it the worse it gets just wondering if any other tc 55 owners have this thanks again
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It sounds like YOU are doing everything properly. Is it better in 2WD than 4WD?
Besides testing line pressures, has your dealer actually driven it under the loaded conditions you describe?
It almost sounds like something is "catching" when the geometry changes under load... Bent steering cylinder...?
Just some ideas...
It would be good if you could drive a different one at the dealer's lot under similar conditions to see whether there is a problem with yours or if it a characteristic of the model. I have to believe there is a problem....
Good luck!
Mark
Besides testing line pressures, has your dealer actually driven it under the loaded conditions you describe?
It almost sounds like something is "catching" when the geometry changes under load... Bent steering cylinder...?
Just some ideas...
It would be good if you could drive a different one at the dealer's lot under similar conditions to see whether there is a problem with yours or if it a characteristic of the model. I have to believe there is a problem....
Good luck!
Mark
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Something is definately very wrong. I have a 2120 (same basic tractor) and do heavy loader work without any steering problem.
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On tractors with large diameter front tires and large industrial loaders it is common to be able to turn the front wheels while having a loaded bucket and not moving. In my experience, the Class III tractors are not able to move the front wheels while not moving if you are in loose soil. This may also be true with the Class IVs. They can be turned on concrete, but not in loose or soft soil. Slow movement, however, does allow the front wheels to turn. That sounds like what you are describing and if you are used to a heavy duty tractor/loader the TC55 might not perform as you'd expect.
Several years ago a gent who went by the tag name "DieselPower" was very indignant about our tractor's inability to turn the wheels as you describe under the loader's full or partially full weight. I never have trouble steering my tractor, but maybe I've just become used to it. I do know that many heavy tractors I've operated would dig a ditch with the front wheels if the bucket was loaded, but that's just not the case with my current tractor.
Andy, will your 2120 turn it's front wheels in loose dirt with the bucket loaded? If so, it probably has a much stronger PS pump than the newer tractors.
On tractors with large diameter front tires and large industrial loaders it is common to be able to turn the front wheels while having a loaded bucket and not moving. In my experience, the Class III tractors are not able to move the front wheels while not moving if you are in loose soil. This may also be true with the Class IVs. They can be turned on concrete, but not in loose or soft soil. Slow movement, however, does allow the front wheels to turn. That sounds like what you are describing and if you are used to a heavy duty tractor/loader the TC55 might not perform as you'd expect.
Several years ago a gent who went by the tag name "DieselPower" was very indignant about our tractor's inability to turn the wheels as you describe under the loader's full or partially full weight. I never have trouble steering my tractor, but maybe I've just become used to it. I do know that many heavy tractors I've operated would dig a ditch with the front wheels if the bucket was loaded, but that's just not the case with my current tractor.
Andy, will your 2120 turn it's front wheels in loose dirt with the bucket loaded? If so, it probably has a much stronger PS pump than the newer tractors.
2120s are fine.and one would think that its new replacement would only go forward and be better. I have now found 3 more TC55 with this same problem 2wd or 4wd same and at any rpm just will not turn. N H is just saying they know but they do not have a fix for it and are not looking in to it at this time . I would just like to see how many more customers of NH and Case have this problem and let them know how many are doing it. My dealer has done all thay can do for me "witch was a lot " now its up to NH to find the cure I think a bigger piston or two cylinders would fix for this hay super steer would do it too on thing for sure a backhoe on the back seems to fix it i just have no use for one thanks for all the input
