The Marines are attacking!

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orezok

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I live not too far from the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center out here in the Mojave, the largest live fire base in the country. I'm probably about 20 to 25 miles from one of the the live fire ranges. Usually when they fire the 155's we hear the boom and sometimes feel a little shock wave. Today they are firing multiple rounds on target which they have not done before.

Five or 6 rounds are hitting within a second or 2. Every once in a while they all hit at once. This causing the windows to rattle and dishes in the kitchen to clatter. It's about equal to a 3.5 earthquake :eek: ...and I'm 20 miles away. For those who don't know, a 3.5 quake will shake the house sometimes causing creaking of the structure. I can't imagine what it's like at the range.
 
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I was stationed at Pendleton back in the 80's and only went to see one live fire happen. It was mostly automatic fire from M60's and 500 pound bombs being dropped by the jets. I enjoyed shooting the M-60, but was kind of disappointing in the bombs being dropped. I expected more to happen, but I guess that's Hollywood for you.
 
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I observed live fire exercises as a Seabee in tactical training. Note observed not participated. Later in Vietnam It was beyond description some of the marine demonstrations for real. There sure were no limits on the amount of ordnance expended compared to training. The 2000# bombs the AF dropped were awesome 30 miles away as well as the 16" and 8" naval shells. I would not have enjoyed being on the receiving end after seeing some of the after action photos.

Ron
 
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I was doing live fire calls when we did a four battalion (a total of 54 15mm howitzers and 18 8 inch howitzers) Time on Target mission. We were at a safe distance from the impact zone (naturally), but I'm still amazed by the noise, vibration and devastation those guns did with 72 rounds impacting within seconds of each other.

Artillery - King of Battle /Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl!!!!!
 
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We can sometimes here artillery fire from Fort Bragg which is 40ish miles away. Oddly, we only here it when the Marines come up from Lejune to fire their 155s which gets mentioned in the local media. I don't think we have ever heard the 82nd artillery fire. The conditions have to be right for us to hear though. No or light wind and overcast clouds seems to be what allows us to hear the booms.

Pretty impressive even this far way.

Later,
Dan
 
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I was doing live fire calls when we did a four battalion (a total of 54 15mm howitzers and 18 8 inch howitzers) Time on Target mission. We were at a safe distance from the impact zone (naturally), but I'm still amazed by the noise, vibration and devastation those guns did with 72 rounds impacting within seconds of each other.

Artillery - King of Battle /Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl!!!!!

I was reading about the battle of the Pusan perimeter in the Korean war. The US at this stage had been pushed back to the perimeter and was just holding on. One unit had spread out on the line so thinly that they were barely a trip war. They would have just enough time to radio/phone it that they were being attacked and that would be that. :eek: They were spread out by fire teams as I remember, not even squads.

A NK unit with about 200 men popped up on a hill on the other side of the river. Rah Roh. :shocked: The NK unit did not attack though, instead, they sat down under a tree and it appeared they were getting a lecture. :confused3: The soldiers called for fire support and got a time on target mission aimed at the tree. I forget exactly what they were able to call in and how many tubes but the time on target worked, the rounds impacted almost all at once, and the NK unit no longer existed.

Another book I was reading was written by a Green Beret LT during the Vietnam war. He was down in the delta with a few other Green Berets and various local units of uncertain loyalty. The rivers/canals were used for most of the movement in the area. During the Tet offensive an observation plane spotted a large number of light moving toward his position along a canal. I forget how many but there were thousands of light and even at two lights per boat it meant there were thousands of men moving on his position. There was no way he position could hold against what was moving towards him especially with the local units suspect abilities and loyalty.

He called for fire support and tactical air strikes but none was available. It was all tied up else where at higher priority battles. :shocked:

His goose looked to be cooked when he was told there was Arc Light(B52s) flight available. :D The B52(s) came in a dropped on the line of lights which then ceased to exist. They were close enough to see, hear and feel the explosions. They went out the next day and all they found was parts of weapons, boats, equipment, and people along with just a few blood trails.

It really is unimaginable....

Later,
Dan
 

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