_RaT_
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the politics/religion of tractors
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Cliff_Johns
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( This one weighs in at 230,000lbs operating weight. )</font>
Yeah, but that includes the weight of the operator.
Cliff
Yeah, but that includes the weight of the operator.
Cliff
_RaT_
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Let's see, NW Nevada, population 3. Someones going to have to have 2 tractors. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
johndeere2210
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RaT, I wonder if you can get a MMM for that tractor? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
ksmmoto
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This is a great thread SouthernMan! I grew up with Allis and John Deere. We had 80 acres and a D-14 and a John Deere H. I have the Allis now, needs to be restored. Guess I liked the orange as I am Kubota all the way now!
Most large farms here have John Deeres. Also lots of 60's and 70's International. CUTS seem to be spread between Orange, Green and Blue.
On the Ferguson question, yes he did invent the three point hitch in the 1930's. He built tractors with David Brown for a few years, then did his handshake deal with Henry Ford I.
Ford had the largest share of the tractor market since the 20's with Fordson, but had lost money since they sold them at half the costs of others.
The Feguson deal was that Ford built the tractors and Ferguson sold them. This was the 9n and 2n's. Ford was still losing money and when Henry II took over in 1946 he canceled the handshake. Ford came out with the 8n which made them millions.
Ferguson took Ford to court and won a multi million dollar settlement after serveral years. Before the case was settled,
Ferguson then built his Ferguson branded tractors with Standard Tractor in the 50's. These are the TO's and TE models.
Then Ferguson hooked up with Massey-Harris and they combined to form Massey-Ferguson. He got mad at them and resigned in the early 60's and died soon after.
I got all this info from a book I just bought at TSC called "The Illustrated Directory of Tractors". Great book for only around $13.00.
ksmmoto
Most large farms here have John Deeres. Also lots of 60's and 70's International. CUTS seem to be spread between Orange, Green and Blue.
On the Ferguson question, yes he did invent the three point hitch in the 1930's. He built tractors with David Brown for a few years, then did his handshake deal with Henry Ford I.
Ford had the largest share of the tractor market since the 20's with Fordson, but had lost money since they sold them at half the costs of others.
The Feguson deal was that Ford built the tractors and Ferguson sold them. This was the 9n and 2n's. Ford was still losing money and when Henry II took over in 1946 he canceled the handshake. Ford came out with the 8n which made them millions.
Ferguson took Ford to court and won a multi million dollar settlement after serveral years. Before the case was settled,
Ferguson then built his Ferguson branded tractors with Standard Tractor in the 50's. These are the TO's and TE models.
Then Ferguson hooked up with Massey-Harris and they combined to form Massey-Ferguson. He got mad at them and resigned in the early 60's and died soon after.
I got all this info from a book I just bought at TSC called "The Illustrated Directory of Tractors". Great book for only around $13.00.
ksmmoto
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What a great forum..a feller can really get an education here. I reckon my vision concerning tractor purchasing is a bit myopic. I have wondered for some time if different regions of the country had buying/usage patterns. For example, in West TN and North AL., it seems that everyone is a JD man - from birth. Here in Mid TN, farms are smaller, and thus patterns are different...
Thanks to all, and please keep that info coming...it really is eye-opening.
SM
Thanks to all, and please keep that info coming...it really is eye-opening.
SM
tough451
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Yes what I grew up on had a great deal of influence. The first tractor I ever drove in the hay field was a 35 Deluxe, I now proudly own a 451 Massey.
Used to be lots of Masseys around here dealers got kind of crazy alot of people switched to Deere. Now have a very good Massey dealer back in the area starting to see a few more pop up around here.
My first tractor was 870 JD wish I could have kept it when I got married had to sell it. My second tractor was a 340 Utility International gas burner, would recommend this thing to anyone cant figure out how anyone could have made a living with this tractor.
Most popular tractor in this area for farming is JD,compacts would be JD and Kuboata neck and neck.
Used to be lots of Masseys around here dealers got kind of crazy alot of people switched to Deere. Now have a very good Massey dealer back in the area starting to see a few more pop up around here.
My first tractor was 870 JD wish I could have kept it when I got married had to sell it. My second tractor was a 340 Utility International gas burner, would recommend this thing to anyone cant figure out how anyone could have made a living with this tractor.
Most popular tractor in this area for farming is JD,compacts would be JD and Kuboata neck and neck.