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RotorWrench

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Holder C5000 Toolcat 5600
I got my Toolcat primarily for snow removal and more versatility than the equipment I was previously using. The concerns I had were snowblowing performance and cold weather operations. The machine it replaced was a beast for snowblowing and blade work regardless of snow depth, density and temperature, but lacking in versatility and implement options, especially a bucket.

We've had a very abnormal winter this year with well below snowfall and mild temps. We barely have 3ft on the ground right now, and that's after 17" yesterday. The coldest temperature has been -10F which normally by now we would have had several systems with snow and -15F to -30F temps.

The jury has been out as to whether the Toolcat was going to serve our needs due to lack of normal weather and if I was going to keep it, I needed to decide before winter was over as it would be easier to sell locally during winter.

I've been happy so far with the Toolcat's performance using a 79" Quick Attach snowblower, especially in heavier snow. I expected it to be slower and less torque than my prior machine but it's actually not as bad as I was anticipating. I don't know how much of that is the blower but regardless, it has done well so far. This is on a climbing 3/4 mile gravel driveway/road with three steep grade sections and two switchbacks, as well as two neighbors roads of similar conditions. Blowing uphill was no problem when using 1/2" studded chains.

Starting in an unheated shop at -10F using only the stock block heater has been no problem either. That was one of my previous concerns. Also another concern, cabin heat and defroster performance has been good so far. As a matter of fact, even at -10F I was having to strip down to my t-shirt, having to keep the heat cranked up enough to keep the front glass from fogging. I've since found a happy medium by finding the right temp and fan speed along with the windows cracked.

The point to the prior rambling, finally, this week, at my place, we're forecast to have daily heavy blowing snow for the next six days or so with -20F to -34F temps, not wind chill. If the Toolcat starts ok and performs adequately she will be a keeper. If not, I'll have a nice low hour 5610 for sale. I now have pre-filtered 50/50 diesel in her as well as low temp hydraulic fluid so gelling and sluggish hydraulics shouldn't be an issue, as my other equipment does fine with that.

We'll see.
 
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Good assessment. Hope it works for you. I use a plow on the front and rear of my 5610 and it works great for what I have to plow.
 
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What I love so far, which I couldn't do before, and really saves me some time, similar to your setup, is having a blower on the front and a blade on the rear. Previously that was taking two pieces of equipment. I'm really hoping it does well for me this week because I'm really liking a lot about this machine and would hate to have to get rid of it now.
 
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we are forcast to get 4 to 6 inches today, be the first time using the toolcat and switch between the V blade and blower, as it sits the blade will do the work tonight, for me its the second seat and not climbing over aa bucket or blower to get in the cab
 
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I would love to have a V plow but unfortunately we get too much snow to plow, no where to put it all. Also when I first started plowing the berms on the side of the road would get too high to plow anymore and I had to use a skidsteer to take them down.

Even with a traditional blower setup the sides get so high from normal snow levels that I had to make a berm cutter and mount to the sides of my blower. On my previous machine I could only raise the blower up about 2 feet max, which still wasn't high enough.
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With the Toolcat I can raise the blower high enough without the need to mount berm cutters.

The rear blade I have mounted is mainly for back blading, pulling snow away from areas and buildings.
 
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thats snow, the V blade is good for a foot of snow, the toolcat will travel fast enough to throw it in the ditch, once the ditch is full it piles on the sides like your pictures then I use the skidsteer with a high dump bucket to either haul it in the field or dump it over the ditch, some years ago we had lots of snow similar to yours, each day snow would blow in and fill between the berms, ended up running the Deere 644 to push it back till it got stuck, sat there till spring
 
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"With the Toolcat I can raise the blower high enough without the need to mount berm cutters."

With the Toolcat's 4 wheel steering, you could crab steer so the blower sticks out further to the side too. Yes, that is a bunch of snow....very pretty area.
 
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Wow, where are you? That looks like the Tahoe region.
Montana. They revised our forecast yesterday and now say we have a 70% probability of seeing -43F Friday and Saturday in the mountain corridor I live in :(. I guess I'll find out how well the filter heater I install a couple of weeks ago works.
 
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That's a nice Holder tractor you got there. (y)
 
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"With the Toolcat I can raise the blower high enough without the need to mount berm cutters."

With the Toolcat's 4 wheel steering, you could crab steer so the blower sticks out further to the side too. Yes, that is a bunch of snow....very pretty area.
Important point. That is actually a safety feature for me as my road has some steep drop-offs on the road edges which crabbing allows me to keep my width without getting so close to the edge. It took me a few tries to get the technique down but it's definitely a much needed function for me.
 
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That's a nice Holder tractor you got there. (y)
It's a snow moving beast and as maneuverable as the Toolcat. It's served me well for 13yrs but very limited in use for me. I think the compromises I'm making in switching to the Toolcat are worth it for the versatility.
 
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OK, last night it was -24F in my unheated shop when I went to start the Toolcat for a long night of blowing. I unplugged the block heater and tried starting with one glow plug cycle and she started fine. A few more engine revolutions than normal but still a good start. Two factors that contribute I believe, are me putting in diesel #1 the night before and I continued with the Toolcat a practice I have of covering the engine compartment with a large moving/packing blanket when plugged in.

Also pleased with how well the Quick Attach snowblower did, especially with the drifts I was dealing with. My previous blowers all had ribbon augers and while able to deal with the drifts, it was a little work and patience due to the density of sub-zero drifts. The auger has a hard time working into the drift without it packing even tighter and resisting being moved. The paddle auger with toothed paddles on the Quick Attach just ate right through the 4ft drifts we had last night with no problem.

The one area of disappointment was the heat output of the defroster not being able to keep up with the swirling and blowing snow I was being engulfed in. I had a real problem keeping the ice buildup off the windshield and wiper blades, frequently having to stop and scrape the windshield and remove ice from the blades. They're new Bosch Icon winter blades and do fine on my other rigs.

Also the back glass was frequently frosting up on the inside, interfering with my rear visibility. That was easily scraped though, not a big deal. To be fair, heavy snow, 35/40mph winds and -26F temps are challenging for any piece of equipment. The Holder did better here though, probably due to 4 evenly spaced defroster louvers, higher heat and stronger fan. I think using the Prestone de-ice wiper fluid I use in my truck would help quite a bit, so trying it tonight for round two but at forecast -34F temps instead. Cabin heat was comfortable for me otherwise, never getting chilled with my coat off.

Otherwise the Toolcat performed well under those conditions and after tonight if things go well, I believe I'll be keeping her.
 

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