Thinking about trading my L35 for L39

   / Thinking about trading my L35 for L39 #1  

gchova

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Kubota L39, B3030, Ford 1500, others
I'm thinking about trading in my trusty L35 for an L39 with backhoe thumb and front grapple. Need it for brush piles, lumber, rocks, etc., and like the extra hydraulic pump for the backhoe swing. ? are people happy with their L39's? Any suggestions as to what to include in the package?

Thanks very much.

gchova
 
   / Thinking about trading my L35 for L39 #2  
gchova,
I have around 290 Hrs on mine. It has been a work horse. I dont know about the thumb for the hoe? I can tell you the Bradco RR (Root Rake/Grapple)
is awsome. I can move Brush Piles the size of a Half Ton Pickup Truck. I dont think you would be dissapointed. There are lots of posts on the L-39, if you do a search.
Good Luck on your decision.
 
   / Thinking about trading my L35 for L39 #3  
I went to my local dealer a while back and asked about a hydraulic thumb for the backhoe for an L39. We walked over to the excavators (i.e. the U25), and he pointed at the hydraulic thumb on it and said that they could do a similar setup for an L39. It would involve welding a bracket on the dipper-stick to hold the hydraulic cylinder and getting the quick-attach setup for the bucket which has the thumb-pivot. The welding, hydraulic-cylinder, and thumb would cost a couple of thousand bucks (not including the quick-attach setup) ... but they could do it.
 
   / Thinking about trading my L35 for L39 #4  
gchova said:
I'm thinking about trading in my trusty L35 for an L39 with backhoe thumb and front grapple. Need it for brush piles, lumber, rocks, etc., and like the extra hydraulic pump for the backhoe swing. ? are people happy with their L39's? Any suggestions as to what to include in the package?

Thanks very much.

gchova

If your L35 is still trusty I would not trade unless you can do it for about $12,000 - $15,000. Hoe excluded, the L39 loader is just a small jump to the L35's capacity. I have added 1,100 of iron to my L39, and now it finally feels like a tractor. While the L39 is plenty to tear up a few acres, doing more requires a bigger machine.

I just bought an 18,000 lbs very small used excavator. (PC75UU-2E), not a brand new KX-80 (I wish!)
At $26,000, delivered I will have a reasonably nice machine with newly added hydraulic thumb and front blade.
Heck, finally an enclosed cab with working Heat and Air!

What will be your cost for a optioned L39?

For the $$ beating you may take maybe you should consider adding a grapple and mechanical thumb to the L35. if you have to transport a single machine often and are concerned about weight, then the L39 or L48 upgrade can be justified.

I justified an excavator as I was working my L39 too hard and I like to play in the dirt.

I fiqure my L39 is good for handling reasonably easily 2,000 loads for:

Grapple and loader work.
Carrying loads up to 1/2 mile often. (Why I Like GST)
Small digging and stumping jobs.
medium duty grading
3 point & Pto work.

The PC75UU-2 Excavator.
2.25 times the hoe capacity for septic systems and small basements.
Digging and handling rocks up to 3 tons.
Steel tracks for going in areas you can't get to with tiny L39 tires.
Small Pond Building.
Medium duty stumping. A typical +10" trunk just can't be ripped out with a sub 10 ton excavator, but at least I can easily break a few roots and pull them out in a few minutes vs. putting more rough hours on the L39. An L39 can dig out a +24" stump, but I don't recommend you do this often!
Grading, back filling and light dozer work. Excavator is one speed, so tractive effort is only a bit over 9,000 lbs, still more than an L39.
Land clearing, Loading the L39 and making soft easy piles for the L39 to move.

PS

Witel, Just buy a tractor!
 
   / Thinking about trading my L35 for L39
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I have about 110 acres of mixed field and forest, and the forest is winning, at the moment. I'm making alot of piles of brush and saplings, and I thought a grapple and a thumb would be a good way of moving the stuff.

My L35 still works well, but,
-it doesn't have a quick detach bucket to be able to change to a grapple quickly.
-it seems to be losing market value as time goes on
-the lack of a swing pump for the backhoe is a little bit of a pain.

It would be expensive to upgrade. My dealer, usually with fairly good pricing for the northeast (which seems more expensive than other areas of the country) will give me a trade in value of 19,500 for the L35, and charge me an additional 20,500 for a slightly used (170 hrs) L39 with Contruction Attachment grapple plus front end loader bucket and (I think) a Kubota mini excavator thumb, a 12" and 24" bucket.

I'm not a contractor, but occasionally transport the machine for work elsewhere.

I did consider the mini - excavator route, but I've already got too much stuff.

You're right about the stumps, but with patience and working around a larger circumference of the tree I've gotten some big (for me) stumps out (36")



Thanks,

George Chovanes
 
   / Thinking about trading my L35 for L39 #6  
I now have 3 pieces of equipment.

My first is a 1984 Kubota B7200
Laugh if you want, but this tractor has paid back many times over.
It has done a lot of landscaping, and increased property value at least 6 times what I have in the tractor. The B7200 does a lot of work that I am too old to still do with a wheelbarrow and shovel.

I have a Kubota L39 TLB. The L39 is not quite enough machine, and I have only 17 Acres of rough N.H. land. I have the L39 beefed up a bit and have hung another 1,100 lbs of iron on the tire rims and loader frame. Depending on implement, the operating weight ranges 8,300 to 8,700 lbs. What a difference adding 13% more weight makes! Stability with the slightly wider track and extra weight inspires confidence. The L39 pushes into a pile much better with weight.
I have made a nice set of forks for the L39 and have a nice man-lift platform. Ill post photo’s in the next few weeks.

I am killing my L-39 trying to clean up after the dozers and excavators. The L-39 is a HD landscaper, not an earthmover. I am limited to picking up a ton or so with its front rock grapple. It has a mighty hoe for its size, but taking over an hour to pull a large stump is ridiculous when working acres, not a few stumps in backyards.

If you have 110 acres, the L39 is too small. Think full size backhoe like a used Case or Terex or at least a L48.

I just purchased a reasonably nice 1997 PC75UU-2E

I was warned about the limit safety switches on the boom by the dealer where the unit is stored awaiting a new hydraulic thumb. I was told to leave them in off position. The offset boom also has pin wear problems, but the machine has seen a lot of grease.

PC75's are one speed machines that only have about 9000 lbs drawbar pull so they do not dozer as well as the new ones like a KX80 or a PC78.

The older cabs are made for Asian build. I made the mistake of sitting in a new PC78US and a KX80 at a construction show.
For example, consider a 1997 Tacoma pickup vs. a 2007. Small truck cabs have been resized for bigger fatter people

This was a private sale.

I am having the Komatsu dealer install a pin on bucket hydraulic thumb.

Still I think I got a good well kept machine. For near 5000 hours the pins are not real bad.

If fact this PC75UU-2E is in better condition than a rental would have been with 1500-2000 hours.

I would have gotten something like a Kubota KX-161 or a PC 58, PC 60 or Hitachi, but they are as much or more money.

The PC75UU2-E ought to be enough machine to work our property once the heavy rock & earth moving is more or less covered. I am getting a custom sized pin on hydraulic thumb 42" x 14" wide from USA Attachments. I can't see spending +$5,000 for a progressive linkage model, but did want a thumb that pivots on the bucket pin.

My best guess at weight is 18,000- 17,800 lbs with the thumb.

I would have loved a KX-80 or CAT 307/308 or any of the many other nice newer machines, etc but I would have to run it as a business.

The PC75 does not have to be worked real hard, as long as I am not in a rush.

Each machine I have moves up about 2.25-3 times more capacity than the one below it, so I have reasonable coverage before I have to pick up a shovel for the little stuff or hire that big CAT.
 

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