Thoughts on Walther PK380?

   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #1  

rtimgray

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I was at Gander Mountain last night and they had the Walther PK380 on sale for $320. I had read some articles on it when it was introduced and have been curious about it.

I have had a P22 for several years and it is without a doubt my favorite pistol. Everytime that I have been to my local gun store, the PK380 has been out of stock (it is a very small, one person gun shop, but the owner is great to deal with).

I've never shot a .380, but I really like the look and feel of the gun. I have no specific purpose in mind, other than just to target shoot on occasion. I have wondered if it would be decent as either a concealed carry weapon (it sure is light, but not nearly has easy to carry as a Ruger LCP) or as a home defense pistol for my wife. She really likes shooting the P22; she has shot our 9mm and 40S&W pistols and just does not care for them at all. Most of the "utility" shooting that she does at home is with her Ithica .22 saddle gun. Since I've never shot a .380, could someone give me some insight on how it compares (felt-recoil-wise) to a 9mm?

I have to rely on her or my boy for sharpshooting. We found a copperhead at the pond two nights ago, so the boy and I decided to dispatch it. I used 6 rounds of rat shot in a .22 revolver and hit it a couple of times (in fairness, it was coiled up in a cow footprint in the mud). However, I never got a head shot.

I then used the 10 shots in the P22. I won't tell you I missed every time, but I did end up beating the snake to death with a stick that the boy found for me.

Next time, I need to take the 12 gauge!

Anyway, I would welcome any and all input from the expansive Tractorbynet gun-braintrust.

Thanks and take care.
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #2  
If your Walther PK380 is anything like my, all steel, Walther PPK, .380 ACP, the recoil is a sharp right twist. Not all that pleasant. My wife does not like it at all and I got the gun for her.
Shooting a 9mm Beretta 92 and, for that matter, a Colt 1991A1, .45 ACP is more pleasant.
That is one man's opinion.
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #4  
I have a tarus TCP and a Ruger LCP they are both .380. The recoil is much sharper than my SW.40 or Glock G19. Those things are for last ditch close up shooting and certainly not good for any type of target practice. If you or the wife do not like the recoil of a larger pistol you sure ain't gonna like it from one of those small ones.
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #5  
Who is it made by? My nephew got a new PPK made under liscence by I think colt? I was not impressed. The fit and finish were terrible and it broke an internal link after about the second box of ammunition. It also had a recall for internal issues about that same time. They fixed it and performed the recall work free of charge, but of course that was after the hassel of shipping the gun to-from the factory and the 6 weeks it was gone for the repair...
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #6  
For anyone looking for a .380, look at the Sig P238. I have both a Sig P230 and a Keltec P3AT. I shot my friends P238 the other weekend and now I'm ruined. It put my .380's to shame and I'm considering selling them both to buy a P238. Incredibly controlled recoil for a little gun. It's extremely slim and great for a CCW. The only pitfall with the P238 is it's controls mimic a 1911 and it's single action only. I can't quite warm to cocked-n-locked for a pocket gun, but carried in a slim IWB holster would suit me. I guess you could carry it uncocked, if you don't feel comfortable with the condition 1 carry. I'm a little mixed with SA only pistols for CCW and have only recently started carrying a 1911. I tend to prefer DAO or DA/SA.
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #7  
something else, 380 ammo is usually quite a bit higher than 9mm, and usually a lot harder to find. I like the Kahr K9 and P9
James K0UA
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #8  
I have a number of .380s, couple of P3ATs, LCP, Bersa Thunder, Sig P238...
.380 costs a whole lot more than 9mm so target shooting and plinking are out in my view. As a self defense cartridge it has no purpose unless in a very small handgun for concealability IMO.

Personally I'm done with small .380s for reliability in a concealed environment, none of mine have been 100% reliable, so I've gone to S&W Airweight .38 revolvers for the wife and I. Only 5 rounds but they work everytime and never misfeed, fail to eject etc;)
Overall Walthers are great guns though, I have 4, two PPS's one in .40 and one in 9mm, a .40 P99 and a P22.
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #9  
If your Walther PK380 is anything like my, all steel, Walther PPK, .380 ACP, the recoil is a sharp right twist. Not all that pleasant. My wife does not like it at all and I got the gun for her.
Shooting a 9mm Beretta 92 and, for that matter, a Colt 1991A1, .45 ACP is more pleasant.
That is one man's opinion.

My brother also bought a PPK for his wife, and I'd echo welding's comments above. The PPK and PK380 are completely different beasts though, primarily because of different operating mechanisms. The PPK uses a simple blowback operation, resulting in a very heavy (relatively) recoil spring and sharp recoil in the hand (his wife couldn't even operate the slide, so it has become a safe queen). The PK380 uses a locked breech, short recoil action, resulting in substantially less felt recoil, and a much easier slide operation.

Personally I wouldn't buy the PK380 for my use because it's a bit big for a .380, and .380 ammo is a bit expensive for plinking. It may be a high quality firearm, and the price is great, but you're going to lose the price advantage with each box of ammo. It might be a good carry choice for someone that has less hand strength or is put off by higher power options.
 
   / Thoughts on Walther PK380? #10  
I have a number of .380s, couple of P3ATs, LCP, Bersa Thunder, Sig P238...
.380 costs a whole lot more than 9mm so target shooting and plinking are out in my view. As a self defense cartridge it has no purpose unless in a very small handgun for concealability IMO.

Personally I'm done with small .380s for reliability in a concealed environment, none of mine have been 100% reliable, so I've gone to S&W Airweight .38 revolvers for the wife and I. Only 5 rounds but they work everytime and never misfeed, fail to eject etc;)
Overall Walthers are great guns though, I have 4, two PPS's one in .40 and one in 9mm, a .40 P99 and a P22.

This is why I like revolvers. In particular, the Ruger LCR. That is pronounced as Elsee - Rrrrr. Fully loaded with 129 grain JHP 38 Special (+P), Crimson laser grip and weighing in at under one pound.
 

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