Tire loading - required or luxury?

   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #1  

Jay4200

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L4200GST w/ LA680 & BX2200D w/ LA211
I've never had liquid in my tires on my L4200, and never needed it, since I always carried a 1500 pound backhoe behind my tractor. I've since taken off the backhoe and began running 3pt blades and rakes, and find the tractor is REALLY different, and all for the worse. I get traction loss and tire spin constantly. My split brakes are now virtually useless, especially while back-dragging with my FEL, as the lack of traction allows the free wheel to just spin a little faster. I've generated a few really interesting balancing acts while using my loader, but that's almost expected. OTOH, 4WD is absolutely required for loader work, since the rears spin as soon as my bucket starts to dig into a pile.

I don't want to load my tires for various reasons, but I am worried about pushing a 600 pound snowblower up my driveway this winter - although I plan to chain all 4 wheels. Will a set of chains all the way around do the job with unloaded tires?

JayC
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #2  
Sounds like you just need more weight on the rear.
Can get it by wheel weights, tire fluid, or ballast of some sort on the 3 ph.

Or a combination of all three. :D
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #3  
Sounds like you just need more weight on the rear.
Can get it by wheel weights, tire fluid, or ballast of some sort on the 3 ph.

Or a combination of all three. :D
Ditto:thumbsup:
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #4  
I've never had liquid in my tires on my L4200, and never needed it, since I always carried a 1500 pound backhoe behind my tractor. I've since taken off the backhoe and began running 3pt blades and rakes, and find the tractor is REALLY different, and all for the worse. I get traction loss and tire spin constantly. My split brakes are now virtually useless, especially while back-dragging with my FEL, as the lack of traction allows the free wheel to just spin a little faster. I've generated a few really interesting balancing acts while using my loader, but that's almost expected. OTOH, 4WD is absolutely required for loader work, since the rears spin as soon as my bucket starts to dig into a pile.

I don't want to load my tires for various reasons, but I am worried about pushing a 600 pound snowblower up my driveway this winter - although I plan to chain all 4 wheels. Will a set of chains all the way around do the job with unloaded tires?

JayC
To elaborate further............. you need to make up 1500 pounds or so.
In your case, I would go with wheel weights instead of loaded tires, just because of the backhoe.(take the weights off when hoe is on)
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #5  
Buy or make a ballast box and fill it with Portland cement.
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #6  
Buy or make a ballast box and fill it with Portland cement.
I could be wrong, but I took for granted that he will probably be using a 'rear mount blower'. Ballast box won't work with that.
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #7  
I don't want to load my tires for various reasons, but I am worried about pushing a 600 pound snowblower up my driveway this winter - although I plan to chain all 4 wheels. Will a set of chains all the way around do the job with unloaded tires?
JayC

In your circumstances, since you don't want to fill the tires, chains would probably be your best bet for the snow clearing. I'm not a proponent of chains on all 4 tires, but if you're pushing uphill when clearing that snow, you might want to consider that.

For all other tasks, go with Kenny's suggestion of the ballast box. Can't beat a ballast box for adding traction.
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #8  
I agree with the others, but filling the tires is not a bad thing. I have mine filled and never have had a problem or regret. You wont notice they are there and they will hurt anything even when the hoe is on.
Good luck
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #9  
I could be wrong, but I took for granted that he will probably be using a 'rear mount blower'. Ballast box won't work with that.

I assumed, that since he was trying to replace the missing weight from the backhoe that it was a front mount blower. From the first post:
since I always carried a 1500 pound backhoe behind my tractor...
 
   / Tire loading - required or luxury? #10  
I assumed, that since he was trying to replace the missing weight from the backhoe that it was a front mount blower. From the first post:
One thing for sure.........his question is answered either way.:thumbsup:
 

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