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randy41

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is there some point when a tire has too much dry rot or cuts to hold a tube?
the 6.00-16.00 front tire on my 4WD Ford 1710 is looking pretty ugly and i think just a tube replacement or patch is not going to do it.
 
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Yes, eventually there is a point that a tire won't hold a tube, but more than likely that point will be discovered when you try to remove the tire from the rim and it splits wide open somewhere in the sidewall.
I had a Ford 1100 fwa compact tractor and the rears turf tires were so dry rotted that the rubber tread was coming off in chunks. I felt so bad about them when I agreed to sell it to a friend that I found him another set of tires in much better shape already on rims.
Your downtime needs to be considered, should the tire go, how long will it take to replace it, how much inconvience will that cause, lost money from a paying job, etc. If you use it strictly for your own and an unexpected delay isn't a big deal, then run them till they won't go any more. If your the type that requires a five layer hand wax job, over a lacquer paint job, then by all means change them now.
David from jax
 
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randy41 said:
is there some point when a tire has too much dry rot or cuts to hold a tube?
the 6.00-16.00 front tire on my 4WD Ford 1710 is looking pretty ugly and i think just a tube replacement or patch is not going to do it.

Yes.. it's at the point when the bead dies or seperates, and / or there is a big enough hole or tear in it that a large size farm patch ( size of your hand with fingers out ) and a thick boot won't block the hole... that's when she needs new shoes (wink )

Soundguy
 
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randy41 said:
is there some point when a tire has too much dry rot or cuts to hold a tube?
the 6.00-16.00 front tire on my 4WD Ford 1710 is looking pretty ugly and i think just a tube replacement or patch is not going to do it.

Afternoon Randy,
Just to give you a rough idea on price, I replaced both my 8.00x16 on my Massey about two years ago, AG tread with tubes ran me about $324 for both tires with tubes. That included removing the old tires and mounting. I ended up getting Titans'. Not nearly as bad as the rears ! ;)
 
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these tires are but 22 years on this tractor...i will try to get the flat one repaired tomorrow...i don't like the way the price for new sounds. i would only replace one though.
the rears and the other front are all dry rotted but as long as they hold pressure they will roll on.
 
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On a 4wd you need to replace both. Ive always been told by my mechanic that replacing just one will cause damage to your hogs head up front. If you think about it a new tire with no ware is a different diameter than a worn tire. Im not sure whether it makes a difference or not but why take the chance. Ive rebuilt a front axle before and it was no fun at all not to mention expensive.
 
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well i'm replacing the tire with a new one..the tire is $75. if i run into a front axle problem in the future then i'll be sol.
 
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If the new tire is dramatically different in size, I'd over air the old one, and run a few psi shy on the new one to try to get them at least close..

soundguy
 
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i guess this is over my head but wouldn't different size tires (the slight difference i'm expecting to see) just mean that my tractor would have a tendency to drift to one side (the smaller tire side or to the right in this case?). i don't run in 4WD very much anyway...mostly when pulling a turning plow and then half my tractor is running in a furrow and half isn't. i think thats the only time i use it for more than a short time like when pulling logs out of the woods.
 
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Different sized tires on an axle means that the larger one goes around less times than the smaller one. If it were a straight axle, you would break something unless something slips. With a differential, the spider gears take up the slack, but they aren't made to be run full time, only during cornering. If you make them corner all the time, something is going to give sooner or later.
(By the way, this is based on rear wheel drive vehicles of the auto gender, but probably explains the reasoning, as I haven't tore into a tractor differential) That is also why you shouldn't run different sized tires on your vehicle, unless it is on a non driving axle, for anything more than very short periods.
David from jax
 

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