Top dress gravel road question

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joeu235

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I値l be adding 2 road base to my gravel road. Should I grade the existing road first or just fill in the ruts with the new gravel? I can think of reasons to do it both ways. Anybody have any experience with this?
 
   / Top dress gravel road question #2  
If you have a limestone based road base as is typical in central tx then grade it first if you are indeed adding gravel to the top. The term gravel means rock of particular size or sizes. Road base will include fines and will need to have a plasticity index of between 2 and I think it's 7. A proper road is built with a base material of graded material of the proper blend of sizes and the proper clay content to achieve a plasticity index that will hold together and compact while still having enough angular aggregate to hold it's shape. Gravel is used on top of the prepared base to provide a smooth surface that is easily regraded. In central Texas, unpaved roads are usually constructed of only the road base portion as we have limited access to proper gravel unless you have it hauled from the granite sources out west near fredericksburg. What we use for base to build roads is 1 1/2" to dust. The larger rock is required to help hold it's shape and minimize the formation of potholes. If the slope of the road is not too great we will use 3/4" to dust to top dress the road. Moisture content at the time of grading is critical. There is much that I am leaving out as it is not a simple subject and the correct approach varies by topography, season, moisture, drainage, sub-grade and available materials.

Without knowing exactly what your conditions are, I would say grade first. Also, proper crown is critical to durability. The steeper the road, the greater the crown that is required. If your slope is greater than 7%, it should not be unpaved. I wish they had followed that rule when they built the subdivision roads that I maintain.
 
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My experience with just filling in ruts with gravel is that the new gravel will work it's way out in short order. It takes a mix similar to what Ray suggests and is even better if rolled in to tightly pack it down. That is how our local township road crews maintain our existing gravel roads.
 
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I'll be top dressing with a gravel/recycled asphalt mix. There's ´ an old unused road on my Dad's ´ ranch that I'll tearing out and hauling the material over to my place.

Looks like I'll grading first. Main reason I didn't want to was it makes me haul the big tractor an extra time. Thanks for the responses.
 
   / Top dress gravel road question #5  
Here's why I would recommend preparing the surface before adding gravel to the top.

1. Restore/build in a good crown. Don't use extra gravel to create it.
2. Avoid "Pothole Memory". If you leave the ruts and potholes, the gravel dumped over them is thicker, and will eventually compact more, leaving shallow impressions over the pothole. Eventually they will grow into bigger potholes.

We'd like to see pics of your project!
 
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   / Top dress gravel road question #6  
Darn, I'm looking at the same scenario with my road. Wanted to have someone say there was no need for grading.
 

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