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   / Tractor for Mowing/Snow Throwing #11  
Pavement millings cannot be sold like that here in NY as they are considered a waste product owned by the municipality and reused by them for making road shoulders instead of using crushed bank run gravels.

I think in most states the municipality or state does keep some millings for their own use but surrender the rest to be recycled into new blacktop. Fortunately for us they are only allowed to use so much of the milling in the new blacktop and the excess can be sold and used for Driveways like mine. Now there are laws concerning it and I am not able to use it as fill or to improperly dispose of it if I remove or have extra.
 
   / Tractor for Mowing/Snow Throwing #12  
Pavement millings cannot be sold like that here in NY as they are considered a waste product owned by the municipality and reused by them for making road shoulders instead of using crushed bank run gravels.

Au contraire. Pavement millings regularly go for around $200 for a ten wheeler here in N.Y., Craigslist is full of adds for it. It got so excess I had a contractor call me once asking if I needed a few loads. Much cheaper than crushed gravel for the same sized load. But I think we're again spending this guy's money on the wrong thing. If most of his drive is stone and we're suggesting millings for repair he will wind up with a two tone drive which probably isn't real appealing to the eye.
 
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#13  
Thanks for the help all it's pointed me in the correct direction to get started. I know I don't want to drop the cash on a x700 series tractor at this point for out there; but I was a little worried about the newer belt driven machines for that long of a driveway.

I'm finding 318's & 322's in my area with a snow blower for asking prices between 1750-2500 with the single stage snowblower. Save some money on this project and I'll end up with a ZTR at some point for the mowing and keep the hours down on the snow machine and save me time on the job we have to do more often around here.

I'll look into the asphalt millings once I am able to get in there and figure out a ball park of how many yards of fill I need. Thanks for that tip.
 
   / Tractor for Mowing/Snow Throwing #14  
Au contraire. Pavement millings regularly go for around $200 for a ten wheeler here in N.Y., Craigslist is full of adds for it. It got so excess I had a contractor call me once asking if I needed a few loads. Much cheaper than crushed gravel for the same sized load. But I think we're again spending this guy's money on the wrong thing. If most of his drive is stone and we're suggesting millings for repair he will wind up with a two tone drive which probably isn't real appealing to the eye.

Greetings Fishhead,

The concept of using recycled blacktop over the top of a graveled driveway is no different than graveling a road and then blacktopping it - except the cost of recycled is much much lower than actual blacktopping and doesn't require steam rollers. Recycled blacktop "knits" together with some exposure to sun - and it makes a more connected surface compared to gravel. It also stops weeds from growing thru - far better than gravel does. In other words - leveling (or a small crowning) the gravel and then applying recycled blacktop helps stop rutting and makes a whole lot nicer surface for snowblowing. And one last benefit - is recycled blacktop in winter allows far improved melt and snow/ice runoff compared to gravel because its black and because petroleum based product keeps the water/ice/snow better "separated" from the ground. Your snowblower will be grateful and last much longer with recycled blacktop on top compared to gravel. And you'll have far less dust and no rock chips on vehicles.

And Aranyic: It sounds like you've come to a sane and common sense set of decisions. It may not be a 15 year solution all at one time - but then you "financially live to fight another day". LOL

P.S. Regarding Recycled blacktop used for new blacktopping activity - its a huge benefit for the blacktopping operations and the public in general. Typically most states require a maximum of 30% or 35% recycled used in the mix of new blacktop. It saves our landfills and keeps down the use of petroleum products . . . but they've also found that recycled blacktop additions to new blacktop actually makes a stronger and more durable blacktop than strictly brand new blacktop can produce. It acts as a superior binder much like sand mixed with aggregate in concrete binds better than just sand or just aggregate. And they've found that 20 year old blacktop contains about 1/3rd of its usable petroleum too. Car lots are using recycled in some cases where gravel outlots exist. Keeps dust down and reduces rock chips for them too.

AxleHub
 
   / Tractor for Mowing/Snow Throwing #15  
Greetings Fishhead,

The concept of using recycled blacktop over the top of a graveled driveway is no different than graveling a road and then blacktopping it - except the cost of recycled is much much lower than actual blacktopping and doesn't require steam rollers. Recycled blacktop "knits" together with some exposure to sun - and it makes a more connected surface compared to gravel. It also stops weeds from growing thru - far better than gravel does. In other words - leveling (or a small crowning) the gravel and then applying recycled blacktop helps stop rutting and makes a whole lot nicer surface for snowblowing. And one last benefit - is recycled blacktop in winter allows far improved melt and snow/ice runoff compared to gravel because its black and because petroleum based product keeps the water/ice/snow better "separated" from the ground. Your snowblower will be grateful and last much longer with recycled blacktop on top compared to gravel. And you'll have far less dust and no rock chips on vehicles.

And Aranyic: It sounds like you've come to a sane and common sense set of decisions. It may not be a 15 year solution all at one time - but then you "financially live to fight another day". LOL

P.S. Regarding Recycled blacktop used for new blacktopping activity - its a huge benefit for the blacktopping operations and the public in general. Typically most states require a maximum of 30% or 35% recycled used in the mix of new blacktop. It saves our landfills and keeps down the use of petroleum products . . . but they've also found that recycled blacktop additions to new blacktop actually makes a stronger and more durable blacktop than strictly brand new blacktop can produce. It acts as a superior binder much like sand mixed with aggregate in concrete binds better than just sand or just aggregate. And they've found that 20 year old blacktop contains about 1/3rd of its usable petroleum too. Car lots are using recycled in some cases where gravel outlots exist. Keeps dust down and reduces rock chips for them too.

AxleHub

If you can get your hands on a good batch of millings and afford to spread them thick renting a roller and doing the job on real hot sunny days will result in far better results and even longer periods between maint.
 

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