Tractor(s) for land purchase

[Shotoif]

Hello all Nick the New guy here! Not just to the forum but to tractors as well, and of course I have a few questions. I am considering a 9+ acre piece of property with a farm house and barn on it which will require a good amount of lawn work. About 8 acres are cleared with half being rough cut and fenced for horses the other half being finish cut. The land itself has a slight grade which helps facilitate water run off to the 1 acre pond. There is also a hard pack gravel/crush and run driveway, several hundred feet that will need to be maintained as well.

I am trying to get the current owners to throw in the Garvely 260z and the John Deere 1050 with front end loader and bush hog. While both tractors appear to be in great shape especially the JD I do not know if they run or when they where last serviced. I do have a local Gravely dealer as well Bob-Cat and Toro for the zero turn, and the usual big box stores. My nearest tractor dealer that I know of is about and hour away which is a JD dealer. Here is what little data I have on the two tractors...

JD 1050 1538 hours, front tires have some dry rot/cracking, cosmetically tracker looks new and has been barn kept. PIN# CH1050S022839*. Bush hog model ATH720, 12-04828.

Gravely 260Z 417 hours, appears to be in working condition minus the flat tire and has been barn kept. S/N 3234009241.

I have seen the JD 1050 used from as low as 4400 to 10K, and the 260Z from 2500-8k depending on year and hours.

What I am trying to research is if I can not get these items included in the sale what is a comparable like item and brand not being the driving factor. After doing some local inquiries about the zero turn while the Gravely commercial grade is awesome it doesnt need to be replaced by a commercial grade zero turn because I am not running a land scapeing business and only using the zero turn once or twice a week when the season call for it. That in turn drives down the cost considerably when purchasing new or used.

The JD is a whole other story and I wander if I actually need to replace it if I can not get it thrown into the sale. While really cool to have if I finish cut the whole 8 acres then what purpose does the tractor serve? I could buy a second zero turn or regular lawn tractor and put the wife to work, which she likes to do anyway. If I were to replace the JD 1050 as this model is no longer made what is a good used tractor for 10k or less that could replace it.

I do plan on farming some of the land later on down the road but that is 2-4 years down the line after the house and land renovations are all complete.

Thanks in advance for advice offered and if anyone has questions just ask.

 

[jeff9366]

You will get more more replies and higher quality replies if you limit each thread to one topic and post in the appropriate forum.

The Deere 1050 is a Yanmar for John Deere, turbocharged, 33-horsepower diesel tractor, 4-WD and 3,500 pounds weight. This is a very nice tractor, reliable, and ample(+) size for practical tractor work on nine acres. Parts will be readily available from John Deere or on eBay. 1,500 hours is just past new for a well maintained diesel, stored inside and about right hours for a tractor of 1980s vintage. Well maintained Yanmar diesel engines commonly run 12,000 hours.

Deere 1050 has an industry standard, Category 1, three-point-hitch so a plethora of implements are available.

Almost everyone who acquires an unplanned tractor with a Front End Loader finds plenty of use for it after learning how to operate it. Do you NOT plan to use the JD1050 for your land renovation and driveway maintenance?

DEERE 1050 LINKS:

TractorData.com John Deere 1050 tractor information

https://www.google.com/search?clien...+1050+site:tractorbynet.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


LINK TO EVERYTHING ATTACHMENTS IN NEWTON, NORTH CAROLINA:

http://www.everythingattachments.com/Tractor-Attachments-from-EverythingAttachments-s/3000.htm


((THANKS, WOLFY.))

 

[Wolfy]

The John Deere 1050 is a 33hp, turbocharged version of the 950.

 

[ovrszd]

You'll want a tractor. Actually, I'd more concern in being able to buy the JD than the Gravely. But,,, both would be nice.

Welcome to TBN.

 

[GManBart]

Is the Deere 4x2, or 4x4?

 

[Tractor Seabee]

Try to get them as part of the deal. You may have to pay cash for them if it screws up the property financing as the appraisal or sale agreement cannot address them except that way. A side deal where they throw them in w/o any written record is the best solution on that, just pad the sale price and hope the appraisal covers it. If it doesn't happen get back here and give us as much info on your uses as possible, your target pricing and your means of purchase. Cash always works but may drain your remodel resources too much. Used tractors are almost impossible to finance except unsecured personal loan which has extremely high interest. Only established bonafide farmers have access to used equipment loans secured by the equipment and that from banks that cater to farmers. New tractors in the range of what you need are financed $0 down, 0% interest, and 60 months. Used, if you are a tractor/machinery novice can be a crap shoot and they are not that much cheaper than new, only 10-20% less for a good one.

I was where you are 3 years ago. Looked at 50 used tractors and settled on a Kubota BX25. I has been a great little machine and I now have 1000 HRs on it. They have a mid mount mower that makes them into a large riding lawn mower that works for lawns and pasture (if it is not too rough). A PTO operated 3PT bush hog works great for rough ground. You can have it all in one machine, one engine to maintain. Check all the SCUTs and CUTs out on line first. All the popular brands have competing models and the same financing options. Kubota, John Deere, New Holland, Kiota, Mihandra to name a few. They are all made in Japan but part and dealer support is excellent. I would stay away from the Chinese ones as their dealer and part support sucks in general. The closest working JINMA dealer up here is way down in Oregon, 300 miles away. I am not sure how you get support for a NORTRAC as the seller is primarily a catalog and internet supplier of industrial supplies, they do have some brick and mortar stores but none in my area. They all list their local/closest dealers. If the chosen brand dealer is a long way away like your JD plan on doing your own maintenance and repairs or plan to buy a trailer/truck combo to handle the load you settle on. Dealer transport costs can equal or exceed their shop service cost.

Lots of luck on getting your deal done, Ron

 

[paulemar]

I have a feeling that if you do not find a way to get both, you will certainly regret it at some point.

#1. You probably have a seller willing to deal on price to your advantage if you can't get them thrown in to seal the deal.

#2. The present owner has probably decided, over numerous years, that these 2 tractors meet the needs of the property perfectly. They probably do.

#3. If you don't manage to get them, the price of new quality equipment suitable for that property will knock your socks off and you will likely be on this forum asking which used tractor/tractors you should buy. It will probably cost you more than the 10k mentioned for equivalent machines.

#4 If they look like they are in great shape, chances are that they are as good as they look. Ask about how they run and any problems, then crank em' up and see for yourself.

Good luck

 

[jenkinsph]

I have a feeling that if you do not find a way to get both, you will certainly regret it at some point.

#1. You probably have a seller willing to deal on price to your advantage if you can't get them thrown in to seal the deal.

#2. The present owner has probably decided, over numerous years, that these 2 tractors meet the needs of the property perfectly. They probably do.

#3. If you don't manage to get them, the price of new quality equipment suitable for that property will knock your socks off and you will likely be on this forum asking which used tractor/tractors you should buy. It will probably cost you more than the 10k mentioned for equivalent machines.

#4 If they look like they are in great shape, chances are that they are as good as they look. Ask about how they run and any problems, then crank em' up and see for yourself.

Good luck

I agree^^^^^^^^^
Try to work a deal to include them at a fair price. Sounds like good choices for your initial needs.

 

[rsallen]

Personal experience from here, so the grain of salt should be shaken if you take any notice of this post.
25 plus years ago when I/we bought this property we had nothing other than a lawn mower. The first winter we got a tractor to push snow, eh that didn't work.. now we get a snow blower for the tractor. All fine and good.
The tractor came with a mower. Jeez, it took forever mowing the area wanted.
Fast forward three or four years, tired of the time out of life to mow the g**d**n lawn. Major money (at the time) for a dedicated mower. But that then major expense got my life back, it cut mowing time to a third or quarter of what it took with the tractor (yeah no s**t).
Meanwhile the tractor just kept on keeping on assisting me in the various jobs needing attention.

The/a tractor is a must, and yes it can and will do all that you want.
In the end though you will want/need two different machines.

Do the deal now.
It's now or later.

 

[ovrszd]

Personal experience from here, so the grain of salt should be shaken if you take any notice of this post.
25 plus years ago when I/we bought this property we had nothing other than a lawn mower. The first winter we got a tractor to push snow, eh that didn't work.. now we get a snow blower for the tractor. All fine and good.
The tractor came with a mower. Jeez, it took forever mowing the area wanted.
Fast forward three or four years, tired of the time out of life to mow the g**d**n lawn. Major money (at the time) for a dedicated mower. But that then major expense got my life back, it cut mowing time to a third or quarter of what it took with the tractor (yeah no s**t).
Meanwhile the tractor just kept on keeping on assisting me in the various jobs needing attention.

The/a tractor is a must, and yes it can and will do all that you want.
In the end though you will want/need two different machines.

Do the deal now.

Very good advice there, from someone that has lived your about to be existance OP.