I have a 2004 John Deere 4410 that I have not owned very long. I have noticed when I start it I will see a light haze of smoke. It could be blue or gray I have no idea, I am colorblind. Is this normal? It will last I think maybe 10 minutes then I don't notice it after that. Some of it could be dust since it is so dry here in Indiana but there is certainly some smoke. Are others with similar tractors experiencing the same thing?
Tractor smoke??
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forestcreature1
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smoke on start up is fairly common, esp if the temps are below 80.
it is burning off condensation.
check your oil and your coolant to see if there is contamination.
[if oil is milky, you may have a leak]
it is burning off condensation.
check your oil and your coolant to see if there is contamination.
[if oil is milky, you may have a leak]
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Defining the smoke colors:
White cold combustion chamber/condensation-water (blown head gasket-cylinder wall pinhole-wet sleeve Oring worn out on the coolant end).
Blue burning oil, may be oil you put in your diesel to offset Ultra Low Sulphur that is the only thing available these days----checking your crankcase vent, vertical tube that goes under the tractor for pressure blowing out or smoke is an indication of your rings condition.....letting it idle for a bit and then slowly accelerating in N will tell you if your valve guides are worn and oil is leaking past them into the combustion chamber.
Black is incomplete combustion, or old combustion by products , injectors dirty, injection pump turned up too high in an attempt to get more HP out a given engine, whatever you are currently doing/putting in (snake oil) the tractor that's breaking old carbon loose.....what I use for a guide.
I had a neighbor new to farming. He bought a farm with a tractor that had been sitting for a year or so. He asked me to show him how to operate it. I had a brand new JD gimmie cap on ("free gift"............ with the purchase of a tractor) as I slid into the seat. It whirred for a bit and came to life, coughing and belching......white smoke, water, and wet carbon clusters all of which blew out the stack and all over me.....just lost my head...forgot what I was doing and didn't get out of the way...should have known better.....serves me right for not controlling my senior moment.
After it ran for half an hour or so, it was nice and hot and clean. He used it often enough to prevent the reoccurrence of the slobbering mess.
White cold combustion chamber/condensation-water (blown head gasket-cylinder wall pinhole-wet sleeve Oring worn out on the coolant end).
Blue burning oil, may be oil you put in your diesel to offset Ultra Low Sulphur that is the only thing available these days----checking your crankcase vent, vertical tube that goes under the tractor for pressure blowing out or smoke is an indication of your rings condition.....letting it idle for a bit and then slowly accelerating in N will tell you if your valve guides are worn and oil is leaking past them into the combustion chamber.
Black is incomplete combustion, or old combustion by products , injectors dirty, injection pump turned up too high in an attempt to get more HP out a given engine, whatever you are currently doing/putting in (snake oil) the tractor that's breaking old carbon loose.....what I use for a guide.
I had a neighbor new to farming. He bought a farm with a tractor that had been sitting for a year or so. He asked me to show him how to operate it. I had a brand new JD gimmie cap on ("free gift"............ with the purchase of a tractor) as I slid into the seat. It whirred for a bit and came to life, coughing and belching......white smoke, water, and wet carbon clusters all of which blew out the stack and all over me.....just lost my head...forgot what I was doing and didn't get out of the way...should have known better.....serves me right for not controlling my senior moment.
After it ran for half an hour or so, it was nice and hot and clean. He used it often enough to prevent the reoccurrence of the slobbering mess.
dodge man
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10 minutes sounds to long. Smoke on start up is normal, mine looks kind of white, but it only lasts a few seconds.
