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What are the best locations on a John Deere 4300 to use to tie the tractor to the trailer?
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What kind of a linkage are you using in the front of your tractor where the chain passes thru?
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I believe for it to be legal you have to have four separate tie downs with appropriate sized and strength chains or straps. If a load falls off and kills someone it can mean jail./w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif The way Von's tractor is tied is only a two point tie because it is only attached to the tractor in two places. Not criticizing just informing.
I found that some of those ratcheting tie downs with axle strap ends works great. (designed for hauling race cars 'round - got them from Jeg's I believe)
I had bought (and used) them when towing my Jeep but they work even easier when applied to the tractor because it's easier to get behind each wheel to latch 'em on.
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<font color=blue>I believe for it to be legal you have to have four separate tie downs...</font color=blue>
Is this a national thing or a state law? Just curious...
I had bought (and used) them when towing my Jeep but they work even easier when applied to the tractor because it's easier to get behind each wheel to latch 'em on.
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<font color=blue>I believe for it to be legal you have to have four separate tie downs...</font color=blue>
Is this a national thing or a state law? Just curious...
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It is a DOT regulation here in Florida. I believe that they are pretty uniform throughout the country.
Something else to consider is the trailer to truck attachment. A couple of years ago not too far from here a trailer came off of a pickup truck and killed a little girl at a bus stop. Driver ended up in jail because he had no safety chains. Not to mention how you would feel for killing someone.
It is a DOT regulation here in Florida. I believe that they are pretty uniform throughout the country.
Something else to consider is the trailer to truck attachment. A couple of years ago not too far from here a trailer came off of a pickup truck and killed a little girl at a bus stop. Driver ended up in jail because he had no safety chains. Not to mention how you would feel for killing someone.
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jhunter, I use a shackle/clevis thru a hole in the front frame and the chain thru the shackle.
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CSAW, Must be a state thing, have no problems with that way here in NY. This is the way most flatbed tow rigs do it. one spot up front and one in the back. Around here the cops would not know if it was right or wrong anyway! But thanks for the info if I ever go to FLa. I'll know what to do!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
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Von, unfortunately thing like this do not become an issue until something bad happens. At that time the lawyers start reading all the fine print. It even matters what type of chains, straps, hooks, etc. It even matters which way the hooks are hooked on the chain. As far as, flat beds, tow trucks, that is what I did for a living until a few months ago. I see many people around here that don't have their loads properly tied. I even "know" /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gifsome people who have done this, won't mention any names.
As far as the local police they may not know or just choose not to enforce these laws. Can't argue about the laws there but I bet the DOT man there can tell you.
Many people don't even know the DOT "police type " not road crews are out there because they don't stop anybody except trucks.
The DOT MAN will be glad to inform you, sometimes he will even charge you for the unsolicited info. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
It would not hurt for anyone to make a call to your local DOT not the local police.
As far as the local police they may not know or just choose not to enforce these laws. Can't argue about the laws there but I bet the DOT man there can tell you.
Many people don't even know the DOT "police type " not road crews are out there because they don't stop anybody except trucks.
The DOT MAN will be glad to inform you, sometimes he will even charge you for the unsolicited info. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
It would not hurt for anyone to make a call to your local DOT not the local police.
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<font color=blue>Something else to consider is the trailer to truck attachment.</font color=blue>
Agreed here! I always get mad when I see someone going down the road w/o safety chains - I mean - come on! How HARD is it to hook them up? I've gotten in the habit of "crossing them over" (i.e. L chain to R part of hitch, etc.) so that they form a "basket". Reasoning is if for SOME REASON the hitch pops off, the chains should catch the tongue and keep it from digging in while I'm stopping. Course, never had it happen, but have heard from a friend or two it does work (first hand experience on their part /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif)
Even though it wasn't required by law at the time, I also put a "break away" switch on the brakes to shut 'er down if things go "way south". I'm pretty meticulous when it comes to hooking things up, so I don't think I'll ever have a problem - just like the idea of "lots of insurance" with the extra gadgets & such...
<font color=blue>Something else to consider is the trailer to truck attachment.</font color=blue>
Agreed here! I always get mad when I see someone going down the road w/o safety chains - I mean - come on! How HARD is it to hook them up? I've gotten in the habit of "crossing them over" (i.e. L chain to R part of hitch, etc.) so that they form a "basket". Reasoning is if for SOME REASON the hitch pops off, the chains should catch the tongue and keep it from digging in while I'm stopping. Course, never had it happen, but have heard from a friend or two it does work (first hand experience on their part /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif)
Even though it wasn't required by law at the time, I also put a "break away" switch on the brakes to shut 'er down if things go "way south". I'm pretty meticulous when it comes to hooking things up, so I don't think I'll ever have a problem - just like the idea of "lots of insurance" with the extra gadgets & such...
