Trailer for 33hp tractor with FEL

[Compact1]

I'm interested in everyone's recommendation in trailer size for a 33hp tractor with FEL and attachments.

I have a New Holland TC33DA and have been trying to locate the most practical and versatile trailer. I will tow with 2006 F-250 with 5.4L.

I'm interested in length of trailer, goose-neck vs. bumper hitch, car hauler vs. bed-over, ect.

What is your experience and what would you recommend? I have found trailers to be a costly investment and want to make the right choice.

Thanks,

 

[jcmseven]

Jeff,

Go no shorter than 16' and 18 would be better (or a 16' with a 2' dovetail). You likely can get by with a 7K trailer, and be leery of going too heavy as that will really tax the 5.4L in your truck. I do not see going beyond a 7K in your situation. Try to get brakes on BOTH axles, as many trailers in this weight class only offer them on one. Bumper pull is fine unless you tow ALL THE TIME. I personally would not be drilling my bed for this kind of load unless you really intend on constantly pulling. As for brands, Big Tex, Hudson, Hurst, Corn Pro and Gator Made are all brands I have used and with which I am familiar. Of them I prefer the Gator Made. A GREAT trailer with many features for the money. I liked my Hudson also, but I thought a bit pricey for the features it had v. the others.

John M

 

[jayhaitch]

What implements will you be using when you haul the tractor? Your tractor weighs over 2500 lbs by itself, and I'm suspicious the specs are dry weight. Maybe someone could confirm this for sure.

I have a Massey GC2310 TLB. With the loader, BH, and MMM attached, it weighs almost 3000 lbs. Your tractor is bigger. Add the weight of a trailer, and I agree with a 7K GVW trailer. I bought an aluminum Continental Cargo 7K tandem axle landscape trailer. For specific reasons, I sacrificed ease of hauling for other issues, and got a 7x12. It's too short to not hang part of the tractor off the back, but that's OK for me. If I were frequently hauling it, I would have got a 16ft trailer. Mine has brakes on both axles.

I have an 01 5.4 Expedition, and even my trailer puts a strain on the vehicle. Again, if I were doing frequent towing, I'd want more than the 5.4. So I wouldn't recommend a really big trailer, or you'll be cursing on every on ramp. And flooring the gas a lot doesn't save any fuel either vs a larger engine.

I concur: a 7x16 tandem axle 7K GVW car hauler type. Could go 18ft if you have the room. Lower trailers load easier, so I sure wouldn't want to crawl all the way up onto a deckover type.

 

[davkir]

Even a little J.D. 2305 takes up a lot of space. With the rotory cutter on it, it has to be all the way to the front to balance the load properly. If you don't get the tongue weight right, they don't pull well and can be dangerous. Plus it is nice to have a little extra room for strapping down another attachment.
This one is 18'

 

[Diamondpilot]

I have a 28 Hp Jinma with a Koyker FEL. It is heavy, around 3800# plus the implement I may have on. I tow it on a 16' tandem axle bumper pull trailer with brakes. If I have a implement like a bush hog on the back it will hang over. A 18' trailer will do much better because it will allow you to move the tractor forward and aft to keep the load off the rear of the truck and on the trailer. I like to personally back my tractor on the trailer, it seems to level out better.

I agree that you dont want to big of a trailer with your rig. The 5.4 is a great motor but not much for a F-250. I tow with a 2006 F-350 4x4 PS Diesel with the chip and all the goodies or a 2007 F-150 Super Crew 4x4 with the 5.4.

Chris

 

[George2615]

Jeff,
My decision for a trailer was based on what else I wanted to do with a trailer. One of my trailers is an 8' x 20' tilt bed. If I only wanted to haul a tractor, a simple construction type 76" wide utility trailer by 18' would have done. I wanted a trailer I could haul a full size pickup, car, tractor (with extra implements), Lumber, mini excavator, or even a load of furniture etc. so I had to spend more money to get 83" wide between the removable fenders and the ability to tilt it not requiring me to have any ramps. I also added a winch up front for hauling on a dead vehicle from time to time which has happened more than running vehicles so far.

Your truck should be able to haul at least 7K.
If you are only going to haul a tractor you need to know the length, width, and weight for a trailer size.
1) Measure the length of your tractor from bucket front to the back of the tractor with your longest 3pt attachment in place.
2) Then measure the width.
3) Then the weight of the tractor, loader, and your heaviest attachment.
I can't get much simpler than that.

George

 

[john_bud]

I looked up the tractor and it seems to be 2514 pounds with ag tires no loader.

If you get R4's they are about 100# more per side.
Fill the R4's and that's about 6-700# more.
Add a loader and that's about 1250# more (with bucket and QA).
Add a cutter and that's an additional 800#.

Seeing you avatar, it looks like you have a loader and R4's. Hopefully loaded tires. That puts you up at
2514 + 200 + 1250 + 700 = 4700 pounds.

(Remember, you HAVE to ADD the weight of the trailer to the tractor!)

If you want to haul a cutter and maybe a tiller or box blade at the same time, you need to add 800+600 = 1400 pounds more. That puts you at 6100#. For me, many tasks require a tiller and cutter.

So, if you ONLY haul the tractor and no implements on the 3pt, you can get a 16' 7000# bumper pull.

If you want to haul implements like a cutter and maybe a tiller too, you will need a 10,000# 20' long. Either a bumper pull or a gooseneck.

It depends what you want to haul over and above the bare tractor.

jb

 

[Nissan197]

If I had to do it over again I would go with an 18' trailer. I have a 16' Texas Bragg with brakes on one axle. When I pull my 32 HP Mahindra with the rotary cutter it is a tight fit. I can get it all on, but I have to manuever the cutter just right. When I have the box blade on it has plenty of room. You will have no problem pulling with a 3/4 ton. I pull with a 1/2 ton Nissan on the bumper and it does fine. I just keep it off the highways and below 65 mph.

 

[jcmseven]

I agree with John Bud on his statement not to go too lightweight on the trailer, but I still feel a 7K trailer would be fine. I actually added your machine to be a little lighter than did JB. I know my 3720 JD, which is about the size of yours, but a bit heavier and with R4 tires, loader and box blade weighes in at exactly 4485# with a full fuel tank. A solid 7K trailer should weigh between 1200# and 1800# (my Hurst weighed 1235# and my Hudson weighed 1770# unloaded). This would put the total pullable load at around 6000#, which is right on the money for your needs and this trailer. In many, but admittedly not all, cases a 10K trailer will add about 500-700# of empty trailer weight to the picture which is basically "dead weight" your truck has to pull. I am not a fan of drilling holes in the bed of a nice pickup unless the goal is towing CONSTANTLY. The key to me is to not buy too short a trailer, so 16' would "push it" some. 18 would be a better choice. Also, check to see if the trailer is properly balanced with your proposed load on it, as a too short trailer or one not properly balanced, will prove a very unpleasant tow.

John M

 

[john_bud]

John M,

Yeah, I guess it is all in what you have and plan to bring with you! I would 2x his point of not getting a too short trailer. Longer trailers give you more options, especially with moving the machine to get correct tongue weight. It is much cheaper to spend a bit more now and have a big enough trailer than trade up later. Just my opinion based on buying a too short trailer that was perfect at the time....


I don't however, understand where towable weight is 6000# when the trailer is 1200 -1800. If you are scaled by your friendly DOT enforcement officer, he will have you unhook the trailer, put a scale under the jack and all 4 tires. If you are over -- tsk tsk tsk. Maybe that's spelled t$k? Either way it's spelled, it's a ticket and you may be barred from moving the load until you can reduce it to legal.

Also, it's nice to read where someone was smart and weighed their machine and trailers! Much better to know for sure!

jb