Tram Leak Fun

[woodlandfarms]

Todays project was to fix all the stuff I had chose not to over the past few months. I have had this nagging leak in my tram pump, where the hose comes out of the left side.

Terry had sent me a repair kit that had consisted of the two brass nozzles on the side of the pump and one extra washer (these are brass washers with o-rings built in

(see the bottom pictures on this page) USA Discount Generators - Standby and Portable Gillette Generators

These adapt from Metric to SAE. The old ones take a #18 Metric to remove. Well, I installed the replacements and one of them was not a #18 but a 3/4". Hmmmm. And when I went to replace the Hex Plugs the 3/4 was too big and blocked the hex... So, I put the new washer on the old fixture and am hoping for the best.

A bit of trivia for anyone having leaks in this area on the 1850. There is a hex plug on the underneath of the tram pump. It is a different size than the ones on the side of the pump. It takes a Metric #5 Hex. The sides take a Metric #6...

Carl

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Carl, are you sure they are brass? Or are they just gold colored. Fittings many times have this type of coating for corrosion protection. The washers with the o-rings inside are called bonded seals. they are common on metric ports and British Pipe ports. I don't get what these new fittings would solve. Am I missing something? I do have my generator running here in the building, so maybe my oxygen is running low. 15,000 sq ft with 26' ceilings and porous as a seive, so don't worry.

 

[woodlandfarms]

I think they are brass. I scuffed one up and it still had color all the way trough

thanks for explaining what kind of washer it is. My notes say the Tram Pump is a Bondilio.. Not sure if that is true or not.

Here are a couple of pix from Ksimolo who is a much better photographer than me...

As for why I was sent the whole fitting and not just the Bonded Seals is a mystery to me. The Seals were allready on the fittings so it made me nervous pulling one off to put on the old fitting...

My supplier did not ship me any seals for the hex bolts which were leaking, so I had to go to Napa for O-rings. It will be interesting to see if they work out as they appeared thicker to me than the stock...

Carl

 

[Wayne County Hose]

The bonded seal is 2 piece. If you take one off and it comes apart, no big deal. Just put the o-ring on first and the washer next. Some manufacturers actually sell them as 2 different part #'s and you assemble it.
The o-rings from Napa were thicker as most fitting o-rings are thicker than what comes in most generic kits. If it doesn't leak, don't worry.
The fittings are definately not brass. No big deal, just an fyi in case you order them or go to get them as brass is lower pressure.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Always learn something new. Thank you very much.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Hey, the more I'm looking at these Power Tracs, I just may get one.

 

[KentT]

Hey, the more I'm looking at these Power Tracs, I just may get one.

Just keep in mind that they are not Ag tractors, nor down-sized Ag tractors called CUTs or SCUTs -- they're tool carriers that combine some of the best (and perhaps worst) features of skidsteers and articulated loaders...

They're tool carriers, not tool pullers... With the exception of loader work (which they're obviously well designed for, as "mini-payloaders") the hydraulics do all the work -- the PT just carries that hydraulically-driven implement and places it precisely where you want it...

IMO, that's a huge difference from traditional tractors, and really needs to be experienced to understand it. Too bad that PT discontinued its dealer network, which would've made it much easier for people to spend some time in the seat before making their decision. I'm always surprised by those who'll buy them sight unseen, without test-driving...

 

[MossRoad]

You make some excellent points. I made sure I sat on one befoe I bought it. I also spent a year researching it.

They are not AG tractors. They do not pull well at all. I don't do any pulling chores like plowing dirt. I move lose material like mulch and rock. I mow. I lift. I plow snow. It excells at these things.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

I already have an MF-85 and an AC-WD45, and an Oliver cletrac dozer, so I've got plenty of ag stuff. I'll have to research these more as I am looking for something a bit more versatile than what I have. I was thinking skid steer, but the prices are outrageous.

 

[SpringHollow]

I'm always surprised by those who'll buy them sight unseen, without test-driving...

That would be me lol

Ken