Eddie, I'm with you on asking permission, etc. However, I having been an electrical contractor for well over 30 some years, I have seen just about everything imaginable with homeowners, general contractors and others who think they know how to do electrical work. If you feel that your work is good enough, then a permit should be no problem, right? I am not saying all, but more so than not, have failed miserably. That is why I have asked the question regarding permits, it is the safety issue. Just my experience. Bob