Rims Trying to switch turf tires to ag tires

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Hi. I recently bought a New Holland 1630 4 wheel drive with turf tires. I want to change to Ag tires but don't want to mess up my 4wheel drive. I found rear ag tires size 11.2 x 20 on rims that fit. I was told 7 x 14 will work on front, will that be ok and not mess up the 4 wheel. Can't seem to find the information anywhere. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
 
   / Trying to switch turf tires to ag tires #2  
I would place a call to a NH dealer to see what comes standard on that model tractor.
 
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Thanks for replying. I bought the tractor used not from a dealer but will look into finding a dealer to help me.
 
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As already suggested check with the dealer or look at machinefinder.com and see what tires other people are using. Also make sure you have the correct size rims. Here is something you may also find of interest.

Tire Ratio

On tractors with MFWD the need exists to have the front and rear tires cover about the same amount of ground, while going in a straight line. So when in MFWD the rear tires are not pushing the front tires or the front tires are not pulling the rear. This avoids putting stress on the drive train.

This is achieved by matching the front and rear tire sizes to the front-to-rear gear ratio. To determine if your tractor has the correct tires on it one needs to determine the rolling circumference (RC), this is the distance a tire travels in one revolution. It is very important to understand rolling circumference when trying to determine the proper tire setup for your tractor. Since both the front and the rear tire on MFWD tractors are engaged, the front tire requires more revolutions to cover the same distance as the rear tire. It is necessary to know the gear ratio of the tractor in order to select the tires that will adequately match the tractors front-to-rear gear ratio. The gear ratio on the typical MFWD ranges from 1.2 to 1.5; therefore, the proper setup should allow for front tire over-speed up to 5% (consult with the tractor manufacturer for the preferred lead percentage).

On my 5210 rear tires are 14.9D28 the RC is 166, front tires are 9.5D24 the RC is 124 and the front to rear gear ratio is .751. If you take 166 * .741 = 123, indicating these are the correct tires. This could also be expressed as 124 * 1.34 = 166.

To compute RC the formula is = 2 * 3.1416 (pi) * Radius. Radius is defined as = sidewall height + rim radius.

A tire size of 14.9D28 (14.9 width of tire in inches, 28 diameter of rim in inches) would be 378/85D28. The first of three numbers in a size (378/85D28) is the tire's section width in millimeters, measured from sidewall to sidewall. Millimeters can be converted into inches by dividing it by 25.4. The second number (378/85R28) is the tire's aspect ratio or profile. The number is related in a percentage. This means the tireç—´ sidewall is 85 percent tall as is wide. This is a ratio of sidewall height (rim to tread) to section width. The section height's measurement can be calculated by multiplying the section width by the aspect ratio. The answer will be the sidewall height.

Rear tires: 378 mm x 0.85 = 321.3 mm + 14" x 25.4 = 355.6 mm
RC = 2 * 3.1416 * (321.3mm + 355.6mm) = 4255.5 mm / 25.4 = 167.54 in

Front tires: 241.3 mm x 0.80 = 193 mm + 12" x 25.4 = 304.8 mm
RC = 2 * 3.1416 * (193mm+304.8mm) = 3128 mm / 25.4 = 123.15 in
 
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Hi. I recently bought a New Holland 1630 4 wheel drive with turf tires. I want to change to Ag tires but don't want to mess up my 4wheel drive. I found rear ag tires size 11.2 x 20 on rims that fit. I was told 7 x 14 will work on front, will that be ok and not mess up the 4 wheel. Can't seem to find the information anywhere. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

I understand that you always want the fronts to "lead" that is turning faster to cover the same ground. Tire sizes are all different even with the same markings. An 11.2 x24 tire is listed as 43.4" in diameter. An 11.2x20 is listed as 39.4. Divide the front 7x14 size (27.2) into the 39.4 and you get about a 1.4 ratio meaning the fronts are rotating 1.4 times faster than the rears. With the 11.2x24 tires, its closer to 1.6. In 2wd the ratio is meaningless as only the rears are pushing. Tractor companies seem to like the 1.2 -1.6 ratio. Personally, as long as your fronts are maintaing the lead, i think you should be ok. It's not like you're traveling 25 miles an hour on a road which is why they tell you to take it out of 4wd while road traveling. If you have a concern, you can drop down to 6x14 ags which would match the original ratio of the tractor with ags more closely.
 
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Sorry I had to go to work. Thank you for all the replies, I really appreciate it!!!
 
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Hi. I recently bought a New Holland 1630 4 wheel drive with turf tires. I want to change to Ag tires but don't want to mess up my 4wheel drive. I found rear ag tires size 11.2 x 20 on rims that fit. I was told 7 x 14 will work on front, will that be ok and not mess up the 4 wheel. Can't seem to find the information anywhere. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

The answer is in the parts catalog for that model. Front R-1 tires are 7x14, rear R-1's are 11.2x24.
 
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The answer is in the parts catalog for that model. Front R-1 tires are 7x14, rear R-1's are 11.2x24.

Do not believe he is asking what tire sizes come with the tractor. He is asking if the tire size he can get hold of and available to him (11.2x20) is compatible with this tractor is how I am interpreting his question. eg: "I found rear ag size tires 11.2x20 on rims that fit". If these are indeed available, he can run them but in keeping with the original ratio of the tractor, he is better with 6x14's on front.
 
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Do not believe he is asking what tire sizes come with the tractor. He is asking if the tire size he can get hold of and available to him (11.2x20) is compatible with this tractor is how I am interpreting his question. eg: "I found rear ag size tires 11.2x20 on rims that fit". If these are indeed available, he can run them but in keeping with the original ratio of the tractor, he is better with 6x14's on front.

Thanks for replies. I found good deal on 11.2x20 again tires. I am hoping to use these to save money but am worried about messing up my 4 wheel drive /:
 

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