TSC Disc for B7800

N1ST · Sep 3, 2009

Hi Folks,

My weeds grew... like weeds this year and my KK tiller feels like I'm tilling cement while inching through the thick crabgrass. I don't look forward to 15 hours of tilling this month. So, I'm wondering if a Farm Force Disc or what ever brand TSC sells these days is what I need. My B7800 grunts noticably when using the 6 C tine cultivator going through the same stuff, so I don't know if it'll pull a disc through this crabgrass. My tires are not filled. I don't mind doing 2-3 passes as long as I can go much faster than the inch-by-inch I have to do with the tiller. Someone with a 30 hp B that has used a disc in thick (but mowed) sod, please tell me if I'd be wasting my money.

framer · Sep 3, 2009

Yes i have pulled 6 ft disk it is heavy duty with notched disked. both rows are adjustable.Worked very good on my B7800 none filled tires.I have seen
TSC. disk to light weight i think. Framer

Toolguy · Sep 3, 2009

A disk is generally used as a secondary tillage tool that is used after the ground is plowed or chiseled first. Your C tine cultivator is better suited to break up the sod than a disk. If 6 tines are too hard to pull just take two tines off for the first pass. You could then put them back on for subsequent passes until the ground is worked to your liking. After the ground is broken up with the cultivator your tiller should work a lot faster. It will take many, many passes with a light disk to do what your cultivator and tiller will do. A disk may pull easier but that is because it isn't doing much besides rolling over the hard ground.

In 2006 I had a patch of canary grass that I wanted to turn into lawn. This was a low spot on the edge of my property that was too wet until midsummer to drive on. I tiled it so the water would drain and then late that summer I sprayed it with roundup. A couple of weeks later I plowed it with my B3030 and a 2X14 plow. A week later it started to rain and I couldn't get back on it that year. A year later it was dry again and weed covered so to get it ready for lawn grass I used a 6' 3pt drag that I salvaged and repaired from the neighbor's fencerow. I made several passes with the drag. I next went over it with a lawn roller. I alternated the drag and roller a couple of more times until it was broke down enough for grass seed. It turned out pretty good. Here some pics of the process.

N1ST · Sep 4, 2009

Toolguy,

I have a middle buster that goes through the soil nicely - even sod. But of course it doesn't do much area. Is there a bigger plow/multiple plow that could user to cover more ground?

whistlepig · Sep 4, 2009

N1ST said:
Hi Folks,

My weeds grew... like weeds this year and my KK tiller feels like I'm tilling cement while inching through the thick crabgrass. I don't look forward to 15 hours of tilling this month. So, I'm wondering if a Farm Force Disc or what ever brand TSC sells these days is what I need. My B7800 grunts noticably when using the 6 C tine cultivator going through the same stuff, so I don't know if it'll pull a disc through this crabgrass. My tires are not filled. I don't mind doing 2-3 passes as long as I can go much faster than the inch-by-inch I have to do with the tiller. Someone with a 30 hp B that has used a disc in thick (but mowed) sod, please tell me if I'd be wasting my money.

I pull a 7 footer behind a B7800 on mowed sod. Takes several passes but it will work it's way down to about six inches. This works my B7800 pretty hard. I have a slight slope that I disk and have to put it in 4WD to pull this disk. The gangs are adjustable for cut and I set them as aggresive as possible. I only disk an acre food plot with it. Any much more than that I think would trash the tractor. When I have worked the tractor with this disk it turns the front differential fluid dark. Even loader work doesn't do this on my tractor.

Toolguy · Sep 4, 2009

N1ST, if you could find a 1 bottom 14" or 16" moldboard plow or a 2X12" plow that would be the ideal size for your tractor. I looked for them but could not find one so I settled for the 2X14". It works OK in sandy ground like I have. I would never use it to plow a large field, though. Our tractors are very versatile but they just are not designed for sustained heavy tillage work. With proper size implements they can do alot, though. There is no one tool that does it all to break up the soil. The most popular secondary tillage tools are a disk, a springtooth cultivator or drag, and a cultipacker. They are used in combination or all at the same time pulled by a big tractor. Some are even combined into one tool.

I think you might be able to do something with your cultivator and tiller. If you can control the depth of the cultivator you can pull it easier without taking off a couple of tines. With the ground ripped up a little the tiller should work better. Or use your middle buster to break it up and then till. On the other hand, a plow and a disk that your tractor can handle will probably work best. Good luck.

N1ST · Sep 5, 2009

whistlepig said:
I pull a 7 footer behind a B7800 on mowed sod. Takes several passes but it will work it's way down to about six inches. This works my B7800 pretty hard. I have a slight slope that I disk and have to put it in 4WD to pull this disk. The gangs are adjustable for cut and I set them as aggresive as possible. I only disk an acre food plot with it. Any much more than that I think would trash the tractor. When I have worked the tractor with this disk it turns the front differential fluid dark. Even loader work doesn't do this on my tractor.

Whistlepig,

You're refering to the front axle case oil? I didn't check that at my 50 hr tune up because the book shows 300 hrs. Now I wonder if I should.

N1ST · Sep 5, 2009

Toolguy said:
N1ST, if you could find a 1 bottom 14" or 16" moldboard plow or a 2X12" plow that would be the ideal size for your tractor. I looked for them but could not find one so I settled for the 2X14". It works OK in sandy ground like I have. I would never use it to plow a large field, though. Our tractors are very versatile but they just are not designed for sustained heavy tillage work. With proper size implements they can do alot, though. There is no one tool that does it all to break up the soil. The most popular secondary tillage tools are a disk, a springtooth cultivator or drag, and a cultipacker. They are used in combination or all at the same time pulled by a big tractor. Some are even combined into one tool.

I think you might be able to do something with your cultivator and tiller. If you can control the depth of the cultivator you can pull it easier without taking off a couple of tines. With the ground ripped up a little the tiller should work better. Or use your middle buster to break it up and then till. On the other hand, a plow and a disk that your tractor can handle will probably work best. Good luck.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will see what I can find for used plows areound here. When I tried the middle buster before tilling last year, it just seemed to make a mess of things and didn't seem to speed things up. As you said, I need a bigger plow or x2.