Tires Tubeless tires - are we crazy or what?

[ovrszd]

Gotta agree with Bird there. I wheel Jeeps a lot. I air down for traction. But if I air down too much I get flats from bead leaks. So sounds like your problem of breaking down your front tires while using the loader might be eliminated by adding a few pounds of air. As for the tube fixing the problem, if you continue to run the low pressures you were using when tubeless your tire is going to crawl on the rim and pinch the tube soon.

 

[dwenham]

Finally foamed the fronts last year and cost aside, can't think of a downside. I ran fairly high pressure in the fronts anyway, to avoid driving off the rims, so if it rides any stiffer, I haven't noticed. Never have a flat again! Dave

 

[Jay4200]

Gotta agree with Bird there. I wheel Jeeps a lot. I air down for traction. But if I air down too much I get flats from bead leaks. So sounds like your problem of breaking down your front tires while using the loader might be eliminated by adding a few pounds of air. As for the tube fixing the problem, if you continue to run the low pressures you were using when tubeless your tire is going to crawl on the rim and pinch the tube soon.

Nope - I run max pressures all the time. It's just that with tubeless, a 1mm movement in the bead will release the pressure. I could, of course, avoid the issue by not loading my bucket to full capacity and make twice as many trips, but that's just not my way .

JayC

 

[Bird]

Jay, I guess you might have a different type of tire, or wheels with a different type of rim or bead. I rolled one of mine off, but I know I had low pressure (about 16 psi) and the picked up a full barrel of diesel on a pallet with the forks on the front of the loader bucket and started turning. I never had a problem when running full air pressure (24 psi) in the front with my B2710.

 

[N80]

I wouldn't have tubes. Been tractoring for two years in an area covered with locust trees and I've never had a puncture flat. I've also helped change tubes on my B-I-L's tractors. What an enourmous pain. He has to do it all the time. Don't know what he sees in them. Couldn't pay me to use them.

I've had one flat. Let the air pressure get too low (dumb), tried to lift something too big (dumber), going downhill (dumberer) and tried to turn (dumbest) and it rolled off the rim.

Dropped the load. Raised the front. Pulled the wheel off, took it to my compresser and filled it back up. Put it back on. Real easy.

 

[Jay4200]

Jay, I guess you might have a different type of tire, or wheels with a different type of rim or bead. I rolled one of mine off, but I know I had low pressure (about 16 psi) and the picked up a full barrel of diesel on a pallet with the forks on the front of the loader bucket and started turning. I never had a problem when running full air pressure (24 psi) in the front with my B2710.

I have normal stock rims with turfs, which I imagine have softer sidewalls than Ags or Ind. tires. I'm also not blowing the beads off the rims, just breaking the seal. Most of the time they just suddenly become low (mysteriously), though occasionally I'd look down during a turn and see a big rut from where the rim was digging into the ground...DOH!!

I believe your palleted barrel of diesel weighs about 400 pounds. I was putting way more weight in my L4200's loader - filled with dirt and rocks as high as I could pile it, which I think weighs somewhere around a ton or so. Yikes, no wonder.

JayC

 

[Soundguy]

One argument I can think of for tube tires is that you can run the casings till they are ragged... much farther down than a tubless.

I have a front on my NH 7610s that has a hole in it the size of my thumb.. it has a very large 6" famr patch on the inside plus a boot, and holds fine with a tube. I couldn't have used that casing if it was tubless per the tireman at the store.. with it being tube type.. I'll probably get another mowing season at least.. if not 2 out of it.. plus the one last year..

Last tire I changed before that was on my 46' 2n.. font tire casing was so worn out and ragged that the trie literally blew of fthe rim as I was turing around in my pasture one day.. casing looked to have been quite vintage... there were plenty of pits, checks and missing rubber all over it... in a tubeless situation it wouldn't have been holding air probably for the last decade...

Soundguy

 

[Bird]

Yep, Jay, I only ran R1, or Ag, tires. And the B2710 with LA401 loader wasn't made to handle the same load as an L4200. I think you're about right for the weight of the barrel of diesel, but the 4' forks I had weighed about a hundred by themselves and were mounted on the front of the bucket, so having the weight that far out front put a pretty good load on my front tires.

 

[ne5b]

Tubed or Tubeless on an Kubota M4800???

I bought a lightly used (only50hours on the clock) 2004 M4800 2Wd last week, added a bushhog 3545? loader, and it was delivered Saturday. Added 10 Hours to the clock and had a flat on the front .

Both front tires have Tubes. (Afraid to look at the valve stems on the back)

Tire shows TubeType so guessing that's what it came with.
But does anyone know for sure?
Unless I missed it the Manual doesn't make a mention of it.


Last night I Wrestled the Tire half off the rim to get to the Tube which had already been patched one time. Think I pinced the tube as I found one hole and 3 small pin holes along the way. Patched up seemed good last night but this morning slow leak - so dumped in some tire sealant I bought a year ago from TSC for ridingmower.... Maybe its fixed maybe not.......

How many hours till my next flat ????

Should I:
1- fill with Foam -
2- run with TireSealant....
Or
3- plan on fixing a lot of flats???

This morning co-worker mentioned that Harbor Freight sells a $50 Tire Changer. TSC appears to have a simular item, anyone have any experience with either beast? If I get one will probably only use it for tractor and trailer tires.....

I'm a Newbie to the Tractor world, My only experience is 5 years of Shredding 2.5 acres with a Ford 8N pulling a shredder and about 5 hours on a friend's Kioti with front end loader and a half dozen times raking Hay for another friend I have no tractor experience. Can't afford to ask my neighbor or my Father in Law, cause I might get lauged into next year .....