Type of sprayer for hobby farm n wat spray?

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whitmerlegacyfarm

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Hey guys so i got my hay cut. We got 6 round bales little weedy but horses r pickin threw. Got a lot of rain last 2 weeks field r comin back real nice.
So im curious wat to spray with. I have 2-4 D but i hav sum clover in half the fields. Just curious wat a good all around spray mite be. I have bot 10 acres or so of fields n 4 ac of pastures. As of now i have no sprayer but could ask a neighbor.
Field r mostly timothy n orchard grass with mix of lots of weeds.

Thanks all
 
   / Type of sprayer for hobby farm n wat spray? #2  
clover will take a pt of 24d amine. remedy ,crossbow or weedmaster. i hve used these with good results.
 
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When it comes to making hay the best thing to treat clover with is 2-4D. You will take it out, which is the best thing for it and your hay fields. There is no herbicide that will take out broad leaf weeds and not take out clover. Clover is extremely easy to get going again, just broadcast come seed and you have it. Clover is nasty to horses with all the dust that comes from the little hairs on the stems and leaves, and it takes a lot longer to dry than your orchard and timothy.

Personally I prefer to use the ester 2-4D as it works much better, but there are other options depending on what you are feeding and where the manure goes. Amine is the least effective of the 2-4D's, the ester, or low volatility is far more effective. Both have a 30 day harvest restriction. Forefront and Milestone are EXTREMELY effective. I think a two week harvest restiction, but no grazing restiction. The chemical in these two will pass through your animals in the manure. If manure is spread on bean fields, or alfalfa it will hurt it, and if used in gardens many plants will be hurt and some killed. BUT as a herbicide it is FANTASTIC and effective. With any herbicide the time to spray is a few days after you baled the hay and there is some regrowth. Two weeks after cutting is getting pretty iffy as to how well the herbicide will do. You can also consider Cimmaron plus, but this should really be used in the early spring. Crossbow is ment for woody weeds like poison ivy. Harvest restiction is NEXT SPRING.

Legumes like clover and alfalfa are not really good mixed with grasses. Weed control is not very good. If you want clover, do a field of clover. If you want grass do a grass field. There are products to get grass out of legumes and broad leafs and legumes out of grasses, but not much to keep a legume, grass mix clean. Sencor DF is the only one I will generally use for this, but it has to be applied after fall dormancy sets in, or before dormancy breaks in the spring. I also think it may be a restricted use product besides.
 
   / Type of sprayer for hobby farm n wat spray? #4  
You probably can get by without much of a weed problem for the rest of the growing season. Most weeds are done after the first cutting. (till next spring)
 
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2-4d and remedy mix or TSC has something named PasturePro suppost to be like Grazon P+D but dont have to have a liscences to buy.But I use Grazon P+D personally...And on 10ac.if you went with a 150gal.sprayer u should be able to get it in one tank.

Also remember that most chemicals recomend 28days before baling treated areas.
In my hay meadows I just get them to mix it in with the liquid fertilizer and do it all at once.
 
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There is no herbicide that will take out broad leaf weeds and not take out clover.

Yes, there is. Butyrac 200, also known as 2,db is a broadleaf herbicide for legumes. It's more expensive than plain old 2,4D (about $40/gallon last I bought it) and harder to find. I had to order it online. It works well.
 
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To use 2-4DB is has to remain dry to 10 days after application. Frankly it will take care of some broad leafs, but not ALL of them. But it is better than nothing in the middle of the season.
 
   / Type of sprayer for hobby farm n wat spray? #8  
I tank mix Weedmaster and Milestone. Takes out 100% of weeds on the first application roots and all. The way that works for me is to mow the fields in July and spray the re-growth of weeds right before a frost in late Sept or early Oct. The re-growth of weeds is much taller than the grass at this time and the sprayer really gives good coverage without tall grass blocking the spray out plus during cold weather the weeds will pull the poison down to the roots. Both these sprays can leave residual so maybe not for hay?? but great for critter pastures I have.
 
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To use 2-4DB is has to remain dry to 10 days after application. Frankly it will take care of some broad leafs, but not ALL of them. But it is better than nothing in the middle of the season.

I know the label says it has to be dry, but 10 days without rain doesn't happen here much. I know it rained within 3 days of the last time I used it. It still worked fine. I doubt there's anything that will kill all broadleaf weeds, but the Butyrac worked pretty well I thought.
 
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I need to spray some morning glory that suddenly cropped up in one of my hayfields. What are the common brand names for 2 4D "ester" ? Thanks
 

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