UDT or SUPER UDT ?

   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #31  
How would you know if the search engine was used and the info needed was not there or looked to be dated? If I found my answer on a 5 year old post, I would still check to see that it still makes sense. I have looked for a tidbit of info for about a week and did not find it. I just placed the question on the forum to see if perhaps someone is smarter than me. Would you believe it is about UTF.
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #32  
Wow. Quite the discussion over site ettiqute

FWIW, my own two cents:
As someone who's still very new to the whole tractor ownership game, the reason I keep coming back here is because it IS an active site, where people still answer the same questions. Even questions that have been addressed years ago. I'll never be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I like to believe I'm not the butterknife, either. I know to start off with a search for whatever question I might have. That's how I ended up on this post (I'm approaching the 50-hour service point, and wanted to get a head's-up on what I should be considering). But sometimes, even multiple searches don't lead you to what you're looking for specifically. The info you need probably IS on the site. Somewhere. But unless you pick the right keywords, it can give you a bit of a run-around.

Another reason for asking the same question is just part of human nature. If it's a topic you are not all that comfortable with, asking the question again just for reassurance ("You mean like this, right?") is pretty typical. Is for me, anyway. Before I start turning wrenches on a $14K+ machine, I like to have the warm-and-fuzzy feeling of someone with tons more experience giving me a thumb's up. If the answer I need is obvious from an old post that I can find, then great. If not, I shoot out the question here.

I also understand how frustrating it can be going over the same question over and over to someone who has been-there-done-that. In my line of work (and, I imagine, most other lines of work), there are times when you go over the same topic again and again. And no matter how well you think it has been covered, how much you think the answers are painfully obvious, you still hear the same questions.

But the beauty of this site is the fact that there are enough people willing to keep sharing their knowledge and experiences. Over and over, when necessary. :thumbsup:
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #33  
Wow. Quite the discussion over site ettiqute

I also understand how frustrating it can be going over the same question over and over to someone who has been-there-done-that.

But the beauty of this site is the fact that there are enough people willing to keep sharing their knowledge and experiences. Over and over, when necessary. :thumbsup:

As far as I'm concerned the main reason for a forum is to share information.

Except for a very few who think that they know it all but time and time again prove that they actually know very little this forum is most always here to help. I myself enjoy seeing others perspectives and I learn something new every time I log on. I try to appreciate the reason a question is asked and feel that this interaction between members is the lifeblood of this forum. Please keep asking questions!!!
Jim
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #34  
I'm going to take a chance that the wrath gods won't beat me up too..too bad by asking what is a comparable to SUDT if you change to a different brand?? Duck & cover:newhere:
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #35  
I'm going to take a chance that the wrath gods won't beat me up too..too bad by asking what is a comparable to SUDT if you change to a different brand?? Duck & cover:newhere:

Nah, that's a pertinent enough question, although, yes, it is a field plowed before here over and over.

Chevron has a terrific fluid, but it won't save you money. It is a pricey synthetic. Pretty much the same with Amsoil.
Also, Mystik j-5 ? (by Citgo, if you aren't anti-Hugo Chavez) at Tractor Supply.

Also, top of the line fluids by Case-NH, John Deere, etc are first rate, and sometimes save you money. How you like the performance with using a non-sudt fluid is strictly a YMMV deal.

In the end, SUDT is a unique fluid that you likely cannot precisely match. It is a proprietary blend made by Ashland here in the US. Canada has its own.
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #36  
Thanks, my main concern is that it's so clear it's hard to see it on the dip stick. I wish they would put some dye in it. One of these days I'm going to have to change it and by knowing what a good replacement is I can watch for it on sale.:)
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #37  
I'm going to take a chance that the wrath gods won't beat me up too..too bad by asking what is a comparable to SUDT if you change to a different brand?? Duck & cover:newhere:

Texas Refinery Corp says their "SPECIAL 303 FLUID" "is formulated to provide the desired performance in various pieces of equipment, including the following:"

I have no connection with TRC except as a very satisfied customer and thought the list might be of use to, or at least interest to, some of the readers.

AGCO-ALLIS 821XL
AGCOSTAR 821XL
Belarus
Caterpillar TO-2
Claas
Deutz
NEW HOLLAND (Ford)
ESN-M2C-86-A
ESN-M2C-134-A
ESN-M2C-134-B
ESN-M2C-134-C
ESN-M2C-134-D
ESN-M2C-77-A
ESN-M2C-41-A
Heston-Fiat
John Deere Quatrol
JCB Special Gear Oil Plus
John Deere Hy Gard J-20-A
John Deere 303 J-14-B
John Deere 303 J-14-C
John Deere J-20-C
Allis-Chalmers-PF-821
International Hy Trans B-6
Kioti
Massey Ferguson M-1110
Massey Ferguson M-1127-B
Massey Ferguson M-1129-A
Massey Ferguson M-1135
Massey Ferguson M-1141
Massey Ferguson Perma Tran III
Minneapolis-Moline, Oliver Type 55
Kubota H/T
Kubota Super UDT
Long Universal
Landini
Leyland
J. I. Case JIC-143
J. I. Case JIC-144
J. I. Case JIC-145
J. I. Case MS-1206
J. I. Case MS-1207
New Holland
FNHA-2-C-200
FNHA-2-C-201
White Farms Q-1766
White Farms Q-1705
White Farms Q-1802
White Farms Q-1826
White Farms UHTF
White Farms Type 55
White Farms 821XL
Versatile
Renk, Bus Automatic
Transmission Fluid
Renk-Doromat 974B
Steiger
Steiner
Valmat
API GL-4 High Torque Requirement
HYDRAULIC PUMPS
Denison HF-0, HF-1, HF-2
Vickers I-286-S
Vickers M-2950-S
Sauer-Danfoss (Sundstrand)
Cincinnati Milacron
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #38  
Amsoil has done the same thing as the post above..I have taken their fluid over Kubota's...Kubota is going crazy over part prices...

I do not work for Amsoil nor a deal..Nor a dealer for TRC...Never tried it nor will.:D:laughing::laughing:
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #39  
If you want to move to Canada, we 'uns can make it easy to choose :)... we only have the option of "Premium UDT", no UDT or SUDT available here. The non-dealer options are about the same, but the Kubota fluid is priced a bit higher, as one might expect. From what I can tell, Premium UDT has a cold weather additive package to improve it's performance in colder climates. How it compares to UDT or SUDT is another question I won't ask.

As far as the newbies asking the same questions, I'm ok with it, I'm pretty new here myself. I find often a new addition to the fold will have some good input to the discussion, whether it's fresh or not.

Chilly
 
   / UDT or SUPER UDT ? #40  
FWIW I switched to SUDT at first fluid change after doing some research on various hyd. oils. I noticed increased RPM on the tractor at idle and quicker response on FEL response at start up. Winter start up also improved. I will use SUDT again when the 300 hour interval comes up for another hyd. oil change. My DK45 is happy with SUDT.
 

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