ugggh ... my PO was a "DIY'er"

[SnoFalls]

ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

One of my tasks this weekend was to figure out how to tie into the water at my shop for some irragation of the landscaping I'm doing ...

First I needed to deterrmine what was going on ...

I had a poloroid from the PO showing his "repair" of the well feed, so I knew a rough idea of where to dig.

Eventually I uncovered this ...

That well feed is part of a "REPAIR?" and wraps around to eventually come in at the shop front ... why the PO didn't just go up and in here is a ??? His repair included a punch into the slab right next to a shop pier support ... (that had to be harder than poking a hole down here and just feeding the line up, but ... nooo ...)

Instead he wraps around the end pier and comes in with this ...

Note ... there is NO shutoff for the well inlet! Instead, it just tees off to an outside faucet (that needs to be replaced!) The PVC maze consists of no less than 8 elbows in a 3 foot span. This guy was a pro!

That PVC maze eventually becomes ...

It's hard to see, but a shutoff does exist at the END of the PVC maze ...

This is all a result of his "repair"!!! ...

<rant>
Sheesh ...

Guess he never thought it might be nice to have a shutoff BEFORE the external hose bib.

He used 8 elbows to manuver the pvc between the well inlet to the pressure tank manifold. (There is no straight stretch longer than 18"). 4 elbows are all that was needed, if you can THINK in 3 dimensions, and it woulda hugged the wall just as well (as if that was important since he saved 3" of space) ...

So now, I can't just replace that external bib and tie in there for some irrigation lines cause any leak/break on those lines means a loss of water to EVERYTHING.

</rant>

And yup, I already had to redo ALL the plumbing at the house (input and exit) ... (FYI, his DIY solution to any "repair" involved at *least* 4 elbows ... sometimes MANY more).

I mean I'm no pro, but sheesh this is just total brain failure ...

 

[SnoFalls]

ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

One of my tasks this weekend was to figure out how to tie into the water at my shop for some irragation of the landscaping I'm doing ...

First I needed to deterrmine what was going on ...

I had a poloroid from the PO showing his "repair" of the well feed, so I knew a rough idea of where to dig.

Eventually I uncovered this ...

That well feed is part of a "REPAIR?" and wraps around to eventually come in at the shop front ... why the PO didn't just go up and in here is a ??? His repair included a punch into the slab right next to a shop pier support ... (that had to be harder than poking a hole down here and just feeding the line up, but ... nooo ...)

Instead he wraps around the end pier and comes in with this ...

Note ... there is NO shutoff for the well inlet! Instead, it just tees off to an outside faucet (that needs to be replaced!) The PVC maze consists of no less than 8 elbows in a 3 foot span. This guy was a pro!

That PVC maze eventually becomes ...

It's hard to see, but a shutoff does exist at the END of the PVC maze ...

This is all a result of his "repair"!!! ...

<rant>
Sheesh ...

Guess he never thought it might be nice to have a shutoff BEFORE the external hose bib.

He used 8 elbows to manuver the pvc between the well inlet to the pressure tank manifold. (There is no straight stretch longer than 18"). 4 elbows are all that was needed, if you can THINK in 3 dimensions, and it woulda hugged the wall just as well (as if that was important since he saved 3" of space) ...

So now, I can't just replace that external bib and tie in there for some irrigation lines cause any leak/break on those lines means a loss of water to EVERYTHING.

</rant>

And yup, I already had to redo ALL the plumbing at the house (input and exit) ... (FYI, his DIY solution to any "repair" involved at *least* 4 elbows ... sometimes MANY more).

I mean I'm no pro, but sheesh this is just total brain failure ...

 

[beenthere]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

Wow!
Looks like you have a project to do it right, and the ideas as to how. Then with the right shut-offs, and unions, future work on the system will be much easier.

Buddy of mine showed me a pesky leak in his plumbing system among his small room with the well feed, hot water heater, soft water conditioner, and well-water filter all crammed together. What a maze of pipes, no unions, and only two shut-offs to change out the filter. The hot water heater is behind all this maze, and if (when it goes bad) there will be no easy way to move everything out of the way to change it out. I suggested when we tackle the leak, we remove the old plumbing (10 years old now) and install all new, with shut-offs and unions so each item can be repaired with no major plumbing work. Yours was similar to his. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

From your discussion, sounds like you know how to make it right. Have fun. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Sure looks like you have easy digging there. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[beenthere]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

Wow!
Looks like you have a project to do it right, and the ideas as to how. Then with the right shut-offs, and unions, future work on the system will be much easier.

Buddy of mine showed me a pesky leak in his plumbing system among his small room with the well feed, hot water heater, soft water conditioner, and well-water filter all crammed together. What a maze of pipes, no unions, and only two shut-offs to change out the filter. The hot water heater is behind all this maze, and if (when it goes bad) there will be no easy way to move everything out of the way to change it out. I suggested when we tackle the leak, we remove the old plumbing (10 years old now) and install all new, with shut-offs and unions so each item can be repaired with no major plumbing work. Yours was similar to his. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

From your discussion, sounds like you know how to make it right. Have fun. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Sure looks like you have easy digging there. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Westonium]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

He must have lived in my house before yours.

600' of well line, cheapest PVC made (only rated to 160 psi for inch and a quarter)

Tons of galv pipe connected to copper to pvc to galv to copper - insanity.

I am a DIY too, the difference being that my work doesn't suck or break and I don't skimp on anything. I love those 8 bends - AWESOME.

 

[Westonium]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

He must have lived in my house before yours.

600' of well line, cheapest PVC made (only rated to 160 psi for inch and a quarter)

Tons of galv pipe connected to copper to pvc to galv to copper - insanity.

I am a DIY too, the difference being that my work doesn't suck or break and I don't skimp on anything. I love those 8 bends - AWESOME.

 

[LarryD]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

I can certainly understand your dismay at that plumbing puzzel.

When I ran water out to the pastures last year, I had a very similar situation at my pump house. Two lines provided water to the hose bib and house and one line came from the pump. All three lines were on the outside of the pumphouse and wrapped with fiberglass insulation, exposed to the elements. And there was only one shutoff on the well feed side.

Now all lines enter the pumphouse through the slab, each feed has a separate valve, and I only have the well casing to weedwhack around. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[LarryD]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

I can certainly understand your dismay at that plumbing puzzel.

When I ran water out to the pastures last year, I had a very similar situation at my pump house. Two lines provided water to the hose bib and house and one line came from the pump. All three lines were on the outside of the pumphouse and wrapped with fiberglass insulation, exposed to the elements. And there was only one shutoff on the well feed side.

Now all lines enter the pumphouse through the slab, each feed has a separate valve, and I only have the well casing to weedwhack around. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[RonR]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

Maybe he was usin' up all his drop off pieces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have fun,
ron

 

[RonR]

Re: ugggh ... my PO was a \"DIY\'er\"

Maybe he was usin' up all his drop off pieces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have fun,
ron