I was considering upgrading to Hoye's Turf tires on my 1401D and wondered if anyone would be interested in buying the original rice tires and rims? They are in fair condition in nortern WI. Selling the old ones would lower the cost of the new ones. Price? Negotiable. Thanks. gross107@hotmail.com
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Yandaddy1110
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Whats a set of turfs and rims from Hoye cost?
Ever consider supplying your own turfs and rims?
I believe from my own Yanmar/turf tire experience the front hubs on your 1401 are 4 on 4'' bolt pattern, same as trailer hubs, or very close to that.
Ever consider supplying your own turfs and rims?
I believe from my own Yanmar/turf tire experience the front hubs on your 1401 are 4 on 4'' bolt pattern, same as trailer hubs, or very close to that.
Hoyes package deal, 4 rims and 4 turf tires is $1000. Yikes! I would greatly appreciate anyone's knowledge on something cheaper. I have little tire knowledge but would enjoy a smoother ride. The sizes are 8-16 & 5-12. Four bolt on the front and six bolt on the back.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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I'm the biggest cheapskate around, but for what one gets, the turf tire package through Hoye is about unbeatable. The rims are custom made so the backspacing is correct. The center hole is the correct diameter. They are brand new. Price? 600 bucks, SHIPPED. While that is a lot, price a set of new wheels anything remotely like what they offer. The rears will be about $100 each, at a bare minimum, and either need to be hogged out with a grinder in the center, or will be larger than is correct. You may have to grind or drill the bolt holes, too. You would still need to ship them, too. However, the rears are probably doable on your own, though from new parts. Used wheels that would fit as Hoye's product does are fairly rare.
The fronts...not so much. You can perhaps find a wheel of the right diameter and width to match the lawn mower tire. You can maybe even find that with a bolt circle to match, but they will be very highly offset, and won't fit properly, if at all. So you would be stuck buying a factory wheel from....somewhere. There aren't any on eBay currently. Could you do much better than $100-125 apiece on them? Probably not. and unless one lucked out and found them locally, they still would need to be shipped.
So, somewhere in the neighborhood of $450 plus shipping on heavy steel wheels is as cheap as I could reasonably see someone sourcing their own new wheels, which will not match one another and likely require modification, if they work at all. Shipping seems like it would have to run $75 to $100, so a person would be within spitting distance of getting properly fitted, matched wheels shipped anyway.
Now, having said that, if I ever find a little Yanmar for cheap that is missing the wheels, I'm buying it and cobbling something together out of my graveyard of Chevy wheels. But if I had to buy new rims anyway, and wanted turfs, I would just bite the bullet and order from Hoye.
The fronts...not so much. You can perhaps find a wheel of the right diameter and width to match the lawn mower tire. You can maybe even find that with a bolt circle to match, but they will be very highly offset, and won't fit properly, if at all. So you would be stuck buying a factory wheel from....somewhere. There aren't any on eBay currently. Could you do much better than $100-125 apiece on them? Probably not. and unless one lucked out and found them locally, they still would need to be shipped.
So, somewhere in the neighborhood of $450 plus shipping on heavy steel wheels is as cheap as I could reasonably see someone sourcing their own new wheels, which will not match one another and likely require modification, if they work at all. Shipping seems like it would have to run $75 to $100, so a person would be within spitting distance of getting properly fitted, matched wheels shipped anyway.
Now, having said that, if I ever find a little Yanmar for cheap that is missing the wheels, I'm buying it and cobbling something together out of my graveyard of Chevy wheels. But if I had to buy new rims anyway, and wanted turfs, I would just bite the bullet and order from Hoye.
Yandaddy1110
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$600 shipped from Hoye? That must be the rears only.
I converted the 10'' fronts wheels on my 1110d to turfs by using 8'' trailer rims with the 4 bolt pattern. Fit right on. Cleared the hubs but these hubs are small, not so sure about the hubs on a 1401d clearing with 8'' rims.
I wouldnt bother with 12'' rims for the front, too big tire wise on a 1401d.
The rear bolt circle is 120mm on 6. I believe Dodge Dakotas and some Toyota truck rims use that pattern. I had a Dakota but never got around to checking, but it looks the same.
On my Yanmar I lucked out and found Jeds on ebay selling blem 12x7 Kioti rims with the 120mm bolt circle. I put 23x10.5x12s tires on them for the back wheels and later switched to 26x12x12 tires. Jeds no longer has the 12x7s.
You could find some 15 or 16'' wide truck rims and cut out the centers and replace them with 1/4'' plate steel with the 120mm bolt pattern. Some work but not impossible.
Those 15-16'' turf tire rims with the 120mm x6 bolt pattern are all but impossible to find.
I converted the 10'' fronts wheels on my 1110d to turfs by using 8'' trailer rims with the 4 bolt pattern. Fit right on. Cleared the hubs but these hubs are small, not so sure about the hubs on a 1401d clearing with 8'' rims.
I wouldnt bother with 12'' rims for the front, too big tire wise on a 1401d.
The rear bolt circle is 120mm on 6. I believe Dodge Dakotas and some Toyota truck rims use that pattern. I had a Dakota but never got around to checking, but it looks the same.
On my Yanmar I lucked out and found Jeds on ebay selling blem 12x7 Kioti rims with the 120mm bolt circle. I put 23x10.5x12s tires on them for the back wheels and later switched to 26x12x12 tires. Jeds no longer has the 12x7s.
You could find some 15 or 16'' wide truck rims and cut out the centers and replace them with 1/4'' plate steel with the 120mm bolt pattern. Some work but not impossible.
Those 15-16'' turf tire rims with the 120mm x6 bolt pattern are all but impossible to find.
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That is Hoye's current advertised price for all 4 rims shipped to a commercial address. The tires add another roughly $400 including shipping-again, really unbeatable for new, retail prices. I'm not shilling for Hoye, I just haven't seen anyplace that consistently offers new tires and wheels for these applications any cheaper.
For the OP, there are a couple other threads where we have discussed various options: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/214453-converting-tires-yanmar-1500d.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/200819-r4s-ym169d.html
I think it is accurate to summarize them by saying your choices are to cheaply cobble something out of junkyard parts, expensively cobble something out of tractor parts and adapters, hope for a rare bargain in the auction/classifieds market, or fork over lots of money for a properly matched set.
I have made adapters to mate Mitsubishi rims to Yanmar hubs, so it is doable, but you should probably either hire that out or really know what you are doing ahead of time.
For the OP, there are a couple other threads where we have discussed various options: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/214453-converting-tires-yanmar-1500d.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/200819-r4s-ym169d.html
I think it is accurate to summarize them by saying your choices are to cheaply cobble something out of junkyard parts, expensively cobble something out of tractor parts and adapters, hope for a rare bargain in the auction/classifieds market, or fork over lots of money for a properly matched set.
I have made adapters to mate Mitsubishi rims to Yanmar hubs, so it is doable, but you should probably either hire that out or really know what you are doing ahead of time.
Thanks for the advice. I'd like to get the Hoye set but having a buyer for the old ones would make it a lot easier on the wallet. Guess I'll have to try putting them on the local Craigslist.
Thanks again. gross107@hotmail.com
Thanks again. gross107@hotmail.com
Ginormous
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I really like Hoye's turf tire kit. It would run me $1900 w/ tires for my YM2210. My wife says I haven't been THAT good.
