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K7147

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Sep 2, 2006
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Location
Vermont
Tractor
L4330HSTC
Greetings!

After lurking for a few weeks I thought I’d finally make a post to thank those past and present forum participants for the invaluable information input leading to my recent tractor upgrade. Thanks one and all! As partial repayment for all that great information I thought I’d provide some details of my own situation in hopes of helping others with their tractor decision making process.

Our property here in Vermont consists of eighty acres that is 65% forested and contains a couple of small ponds as well as a small “recreational” gravel pit. Most of the tractor work…. err … “play” is concerned with an 800 foot gravel drive, the ponds, forest snowmobile/walking trails, culverts, firewood, home workshop lumber logging, and assorted “honey-do” projects.

For the past ten years I’ve used a Kubota L3600 GST (soft side cab), LA680 Loader, R4’s, BH 4690 backhoe, rear 6’ snow blower (rear window chute control), and a 6’ brush hog. Early on I added an 8,000 lb electric vehicle recovery winch to the top of the loader bucket for extracting logs and dealing with “widow maker” tree falls. At about 1,500 hours I felt the L3600 tractor had more than paid for itself and I’d had just about zero maintenance problems during those ten years. Essentially, the L3600 proved to be a faithful companion and just about “bullet proof”.

For my new tractor I wanted a factory cab to avoid severe blood loss during Spring black fly/mosquito season (I hatz bugz!) as well as a bit more warmth on those minus zero snow blowing days. I wanted a larger and frame mounted backhoe that would be more easily removed and stronger. I wanted sufficient HP at the PTO to make full use of a larger backhoe. I wanted a larger loader bucket. I wanted a drink holder (very important!) I wanted a front mounted snow blower with hydraulic cab controls. I wanted to be able to get in and out of the woods without shattering the glass cab! I wanted a new toy something terrible!

Well, I got most of what I wanted. From the “wanted” list I deleted the front mounted snow blower as I couldn’t justify the cost and a loader is essential to me in the Winter. Besides, I have a back “crick” from all those years of snow blowing
“backwards” and I just might miss the sensation!

After serving breakfast in bed to the bride for the past month I just ordered the following: Kubota L4330HSTC, LA853 loader with quick disconnect, R4’s, rear hydraulics, Rear mounted 6’ snow blower with hydraulic controls, rear lights, rear wiper, Woods BH9X (curved boom) backhoe. I kept my faithful 6’ brush hog. An IPOD provides the music.

I figured that if I could work in the woods for ten years without damage to the vinyl sided cab on the old tractor then the loader mounted winch was keeping me sufficiently away from limbs/trees to give me a fair chance (with caution) of keeping the new factory glass cab intact while working in the woods. I’ve welded up an “L’ shaped steel bracket with front opening for the roller fairlead. This will be through bolted to the top of the loader and on top of a solid piece of hardwood that will provide a surface for snapping on a cover to protect the winch from dirt when handling material in the loader.
Quick disconnect electrical leads, circuit breaker, and a 12’ remote control will complete the installation of the new 9,000 lb electrical winch. Always pulling in a direct line forward of the loader and using the loader to elevate the stub end of a log reduces stress on the loader and electrical system while using the winch. The cable is 125’ of 3/8” aircraft stainless steel rated at 38,000 lbs. The remote control keeps me out of the cable backlash path.

I hope to take delivery of the new tractor in about two weeks. Once again, thank all of you for great information.

Ken
 
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Congrats to you both newly weds. :) and welcome to TBN.

"After serving breakfast in bed to the bride for the past month I just ordered the following"...so that's how its done...gotta try it. :)...Big CONGRATS on your Kubota.

Sounds like you got a heck of setup and know how to take care of your equipment,and who ever purchase your used Kubota going to get good deal.

Looks like today complete wash out for us,for this nasty storm dumping heavy rains now and the trees are a rocking...yikes...not even a good day for the Rutland fair.
 
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K7147 said:
Our property here in Vermont consists of eighty acres

Hello neighbor. If we move from NH, it will be to Vermont. We spend a lot of our free time in the Green Mountain state. It is fantastic, and the drives up and down Rt 89 and Rt 91 are peaceful and gorgeous.

[/QUOTE]After serving breakfast in bed to the bride for the past month I just ordered the following...[/QUOTE]

My wife and I had a great laugh over this line. Wonderful !!! ;-)

Could you please tell us your price and could you please post some pictures of your winch system. That sounds fantastic. I am forever battling "widow makers" in our woods from ice storms and my own miscalculated drops.


Many Thanks and Enjoy the new tractor!

The Gardener
 
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“The Gardener”….I’m in awe already! The bride of several decades has a green thumb, however, mine must be brown and wilted…..just like my attempted gardening results!:(

Funny how things work out in life. You spend much of your free time in Vermont and we spend much of our free time in your state of New Hampshire. We live sufficiently north that we can occasionally hear the French language wafting from over the border when the wind blows just right! Thus, we are close to and enjoy the unspoiled beauty of upper New Hampshire. One of those unspoiled pleasures is a lack of sales tax in New Hampshire…not that I would ever take advantage of such an opportunity!;)

The L4330HSTC with rear hydraulics, R4’s,quick disconnect bucket, rear lights, and rear wiper was $27,900. The Woods BH90X with sub-frame was $7,900. The new JRW 6’ snow blower with hydraulics was $ 1,700. Transport to my home included on all machinery. I shopped four states and felt I got the best deal available. If I didn’t….don’t tell me!:eek:

As requested, I’ve attached three photographs of the loader electric winch set up that I’ve been using on the L3600 and plan to install on the L4340.

Winch 002: This is the complete set up with the exception of the leads running from the battery and the twelve foot remote control. Note the quick disconnect on the power lead.

Winch 003: This is a different view showing more detail on the roller mounting plate. Please excuse my “bird drop” welding efforts.

Winch 004: This simply shows the waterproof cover snapped in place.

The only item not shown is the backing plate on the underside of the bucket. The winch sits on the hardwood base and is through bolted from the inside of the bucket. The roller plate is likewise placed just in front of the winch and also through bolted via a backing plate. The entire assembly is mounted “dead center” at the top front edge of the loader bucket. The hardwood base serves to protect the bucket surface from cable scrapes as well as slightly elevating the winch with respect to the rollers. It also provides a convenient place to install the cover snaps and additional surface stability. When extracting a log the majority of the pressure is on the lower roller and thus the inside the bucket backing plate. The power leads are connected directly to the battery via a circuit breaker. The combined length of the power leads should allow adequate upward movement of the loader and yet not drag on the ground when the loader is lowered. The winch location does not hamper the curl action of the bucket. The roller plate not only anchors the roller but also acts as a dirt and stone (read that “boulder”) guard to protect the winch assembly when using the loader. I’ve found the waterproof cover essential for keeping the winch/cable free of dirt spilling from the back of the bucket when the winch is not in use. The cover also protects the winch solenoids from moisture. The battery end power leads are water sealed with plastic and secured (pointing downward) to the tractor brush guard with a small bungy to secure them. The total cost was in the vicinity of $700. I went with a bit of overkill on the winch size to have a larger diameter and longer cable. I would not use this configuration in other than a straight forward pulling line as one could easily damage the loader assembly or even tip over the tractor itself! An added benefit is self-recovery of a stuck tractor should the need arise.

I hope this helps you. I’m sure there are many other variations of this configuration from folks with the ability to build a better mouse trap!

Ken
 
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Wonderful images and reply. I enjoyed the read. Thank You!

The Gardener
 

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