using pto to pump water

[kzack]

I'd imagine this is possible, but couldn't find much info on the subject. I have a 2210D and would like to use the pto to pump water. I have a wagon that I pull with the tractor and would like to get a 250-500 gallon water storage tank for the wagon. I want to add just a regular old garden hose to the tank and would like for the pto to pump the water right from the wagon. Is it possible to use the garden hose just as you would from a house faucet as you pull the trigger water sprays out and when you release the trigger the water stops? I guess I need some type of pump, but not sure how to go about this project. Any advice?

Thanks, keith zack

 

[BTackett]

Kzack, I plan on doing the same thing with a 55 gal plastic drum strapped to my carryall. I bought a Hansen PTO pump off ebay for $14 and in the process of making the bracket/chains to hold it. I plan on using regular 5/8 water hose once I get the elbow fittings for the pump. I will post pictures on here as I do it. If you do a search for PTO water pump you will find a couple of previous post. Also, about 3 weeks ago there was a thread on here called " how do you guys water your garden" or something like that. It had many photos, links that might help you .

I had to take the pump I bought apart and sand / lube it as it was wet when put up and had slight rust but turns fine now.

Bill

 

[BTackett]

Here is a couple of pics of the pump I got off Ebay. I will be doing the brackets/fittings this weekend and will add more pics.

Bill

 

[kzack]

Thanks Bill,

I'm new to this, so let me get this straight. You have a water storage container on the back of your tractor and at the bottom of the container you have a pipe that goes in one end of this pump. The pump is of course attached to the pto. At the other end of the pump you have a pipe that will accept the hose. Is that about right?

Couple questions. Will this setup be pumping water any time the pto is turning? I'd like mine to spray water only when I squeeze the handle on the hose nozzle. Is this even possible? Where do I find and/or what words should I search for when looking for this type of pump. I'm only able to find pumps that drain a pond in twenty minutes, lol, I don't need that kind of pressure or volume.

Thanks

 

[BTackett]

I am not sure what the GPM on this pump is but if I lower the rpms on the PTO it should drop down to a workable pressure.

The silver sleeve goes over my PTO shaft with a cotter pin and a bracket/chains hold the pump and keep if from spinning.

The input will come from the water container through a faucet with valve and the output will to to a hose with a fireman type nozzle on the end. I will have to use the PTO lever to turn water on/off as I doubt the nozzle will hold back the pressure without blowing the hose. At this time I am planning on using regular size water hose as I have two scrap pieces. It if works well I may later go another industrial size hoze. I will keep this thread updated with pics in the next couple weeks and it should be easy to follow. I hope. LOL

Bill

 

[California]

Sounds good if the objective is to simply move water.

If you need to turn the stream on and off with the pump running, you may need an overpressure valve that returns bypass water to the inlet side of the system.

I wonder if the cheapest way to do this would be a safety valve off a water heater. Does anybody know what pressure those are set for? Are there other inexpensive solutions?

 

[rtimgray]

The way that California describes it is how I built a sprayer for my F16. I took an old 50 gallon plastic drum from a tobacco setter and used a hose from the bottom outlet of it to the inlet of the PTO mounted pump. The output of the pump runs to the top of the tank where there is a pressure relief valve. On one side of the valve, you have your outlet to the hose you will spray with. On the other, you have a return into the tank. You can adjust the pressure, but it's been so long since I've used it, I have no idea what the pressure range was/is. Anyway, you can set the pressure, the pump runs all the time, and if you want to spray water, just squeeze your sprayer, or turn your fireman's hose nozzle, or however you open the outlet. If you don't, the water is just recirculated into the tank. That way, you're not over-pressurizing your hose or turning your PTO on and off constantly.

Good luck.

 

[frank_z]

Thirty years ago I made a spray rig, not unlike that being described in this thread, for my old Farmall tractor. I used a roller pump (like BThakett's photo), a pressure/relief valve assembly(salvaged from a old junk yard orchard sprayer), a plastc barrel, and spray boom/nozzle assembly that I fabricated in my shop. It was all carried on a angle iron framework that went on the Farmall's "Quick Hitch." Boom length was about 10 ft. I used it to spray herbacides with the spray boom and to blast dirt off the house and barn with a wand. As I recall, the roller pump could produce up to 200 psi at low flows with new rollers. These rollers wore out fast if everything wasn't cleaned and oiled after each use!

It still sits in the weeds in a corner of an old corral. "Price is right."

Frank Z. (Washington State - 15 minute drive from EFC)