Valvoline NextGen 10w30 Rebate at Auto Zone

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Auto Zone and Valvoline have a good deal on quarts of Valvoline NextGen 10w30. Buy 5 quarts at 1/2 price ($3.50) send in the receipt and get $20.00 store credit at Auto Zone. Spend $17.50 for the 5 qts..............get $20.00 back. You can do this twice for total of $40.00.
 
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So they are paying me 50 cents a quart to put this "recycled" oil in my engine...........They need to pay me more than that before I would do it. :yuck:
 
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I am no expert, but it seems to me that re-refined oil would be better (and cleaner) that refined crude oil. That is nasty stuff. That's why they call it "crude".:)
 
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Thanks for the info. Be good for my beater truck
 
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Thanks for the info. Be good for my beater truck

IMO.....it's good enough for anything. Valvoline is good oil and this has a good guarantee.
 
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FYI about Valvoline NextGen:
From MotorTrend.com

We wanted to know what makes Valvoline’s product different?

To find out, we talked to Thom Smith, the company’s Vice President of Branded Lubricant Technology. Smith is very confident in his company’s product, and assures us NextGen went through all the same quality testing processes the company’s regular oil does.

Smith said technological improvements in refining techniques facilitated the development of NextGen. “Previously, re-refined oils were purified through an acid-clay treatment, but the quality of the finished product did not meet our standards. We’ve applied some of the same techniques used for refining crude oil, including hydro-treating. This finally gave us the quality of product we were looking for.”

Valvoline feels so confident about the quality of NextGen, that it’s offering a 150,000-mile guarantee for the NextGen premium conventional product, and up to 225,000-mile guarantee for the NextGen High Mileage and DuraBlend synthetic blend formulas. In order to qualify for the guarantee, drivers must log oil changes online and have less than 125,000 miles at the time of registration. Details are available at engineguarantee.com.

Read more: Valvoline NextGen
 
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So they are paying me 50 cents a quart to put this "recycled" oil in my engine...........They need to pay me more than that before I would do it. :yuck:

Do some research. Its better than new and has been done in for years. Its just now being marketed to the public.

Chris
 
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A Blackstone Labs Analysis from a 1 Qt. Bottle of Valvoline 5W-30 SJ/SL motor oil.

Oil miles 0
Total Miles 0
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TBN: 10.5

Vis @212 F: 61.4 SUS (= 10.7 cSt?)
Flash Point: 425 F
Insolubles: Trace
Water: 0.0
Percent Fuel: -
Glycol: -

Aluminum: 0
Chromium: 0
Iron: 0
Copper: 0
Lead: 0
Tin: 0
Molybdenum: 0
Nickel: 0
Manganese: 0
Silver: 0
Titanium: 0
Potassium: 0
Boron: 0
Silicon: 2
Sodium: 2
Calcium: 1549
Magnesium: 4
Phos: 699
Zinc: 811
Barium: 1

The msg. below was posted by "bobistheoilguy" at: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=474150#Post474150
Talk about an oil not worth putting on the shelves of walmart...
This has got to be one of them. There's virtualy nothing in this oil for additives.


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For comparison, here are results for Mobile 1:
I found this at: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2069300#Post2069300

Below are the results of a VOA conducted on a sample of Mobil 1 5w-50 taken in October of 2010. I used this oil on my 2007 Porsche Cayman S that sees quite a bit of track duty (~10% of total miles); I wanted to be sure this oil had the right goodies to protect under track conditions.

My Observations: Zn & P were a little lower than spec'd by Mobil 1 in the PDF comparison page available on their website ( LINK ). They claim 1000(P) and 1100(Zn); my sample showed appx 900/1000.

Other than that the oil looks pretty good. I'll also post the UOA on this oil after 2250 miles; 550 of which were under track conditions.

Blackstone Comments: This sample of virgin 5w-50 oil had a normal viscosity. No moisture was found and only a trace amounts of insolubles was present in the sample. Traces of insolubles are becoming more common in new oils. They merely show light oil oxidation and won't pose a problem. The dominant additive is calcium, which is a detergent and dispersant additive. Boron and magnesium are the same type of additives, while moly, phosphorus, and zinc are anti-wear additives. Silicon at 7ppm is also an additive, to prevent foaming.

Aluminum - 0
Chromium - 0
Iron - 3
Copper - 0
Lead - 0
Tin - 0
Molybdenum - 99
Nickel, Manganese, Silver, Titanium - 0
Potassium - 1
Boron - 202
Silicon - 7
Sodium - 5
Calcium - 2923
Magnesium- 14
Phosphorus - 866
Zinc - 992
Barium - 0
SUS Visc. @ 210F = 87.1 (Range: 70-90)
cSt Visc. @ 100C = 17.28 (Range: 12.9-18.2)
Flashpoint (F) = 445 (F)

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Molybdenum - 99

- Antiwear and detergent/dispersant all rolled into one. A much sought after additive. Supposedly can "plate" the internals of an engine to create less wear. You will see it mentioned a lot around here and this is a nice shot of it. There are a couple different kinds as I understand it, like Liqui Moly has a can sold at Napa, but it's a different kind. But in those cases it is said it can quiet down an engine and even help smoking issues, or even consumption. In either case, Moly is a well sought after additive. Even the latest PYB is using it (SN). The downside is apparently cost, as it's a bit pricey, which is perhaps why it's left out of a lot of oils (?). Not sure. Red Line and Motul 300v use gobs of it. So that should tell you something.



Boron - 202

- A detergent/dispersant. This is one of the most healthy doses in an oil I've seen. Oils are generally stingy in giving us more of this. I've heard it's one of the best at what it does. The most I usually see is around 90 or 50. Kind of neat to see this much of it; though all M1 oils usually use some amount. I don't know if cost or some other issue keeps it out from most add packs though.



Calcium - 2923

- The most common detergent/dispersant, however, rarely do we see 3k ppm of it! Wow is all I can say. This is a killer amount to see in an oil. I think the only other oil I remember having this much , or close to it, is Pennzoil Ultra, but that oil is marketed as keeping an engine "factory clean" and the price of the high amounts of additives is reflected in the cost of that oil. Any way you look at it, 3k ppm of calcium is very generous. I would expect any engine running this will be very, very clean!



Magnesium- 14

- Another detergent/dispersant. Don't look down as this is a rather older way of doing it and I for one don't really like to see a lot of it as that's more of an older more traditional diesel oil additive. The Calcium is so high and this being low is a newer formula way of cleaning without the abrasiveness that some say comes from Magnesium. Which is why I like my oil not to have much of it.



Phosphorus - 866

Zinc - 992

- These two are anti-wear additives. Newer oil spec approvals usually limit these two to 600 to 800 ppm so it's impressive to see these amount. There is concern with catalytic converter clogging with too much, but the anti-wear they provide, to me, outweighs the negative. The amounts here, to me, are just about perfect. Not too little, as most oils, not too much, as in race oils. After all, I don't want to go overboard and have a catalytic converter issue, and I do not think these amounts will ever cause one. The couple hundred extra parts per million is just right to this papa bear.



So what makes this "beautiful" to me is just how spot-on all the additives are. A very nice balance everywhere. Usually on add packs I find something I don't like, too little of this or too much of that, or Mag or whatever. It's evident to me M1 really has their game on. I like most of their add packs generally speaking, but this one strikes a perfect balance on everything *I* am looking for.
 
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I'm not sure, but I don't thing that is the Valvoline Next Gen oil that was analized.
 
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I'm not sure, but I don't thing that is the Valvoline Next Gen oil that was analized.

I'm not sure either dodge man, but I was surprised that every Valvoline oil analysis showed no Molybdenum or Boron for anti-wear. It seems to have plenty of detergent, but in this day and age, Mobile 1's additives seem to make it a much better oil.

I used Co-op's Diesel oil in my John Deere 4450 tractor from 1986 'til 2003 when I retired and wondered about it. I also use Opti4 30 wt., which I use in my 60" mower's 25hp Kawasaki because that's what came in it. I could not find analysis of either one. I have had good results with both of those oils and conventional Valvoline 30wt in my vehicles.

Previously, I tore down a pick-up engine that I had used conventional Pennzoil 30 wt and found it full of sludge.:thumbdown:
 

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