Virgin Ground

datanull · Mar 6, 2011

datanull said:
You may not need to go too deep for food plots for deer.

I'm such a goof. You are Deere(man) not Deer(man). Hope you have lots of pumpkings.

ZDB · Mar 6, 2011

Not sure about your area but we can rent a no till drill from the local department of soil and water conservation. We are interested in no-till but haven't done any yet. for our size (25 acres) renting seems to be a more reasonable method of planting vs. buy really expensive piece of equipment.

lduren · Mar 7, 2011

hcraig said:
My experience is any thing that rolls tends to create a hardpan quicker than a plow. Multiple disking may look like you have alot of loose dirt but alot of it is just fluff. I would vote for a moldboard or chisel plow. The disk plow is also good, better than a disk harrow.

Also the less passes you have to make the better. Seven acres sounds like a large amount for a pto tiller. I have done small garden plots with mine. Going from sod to a seed bed in 3 or 4 passes.

What is the difference between a disk plow and a disk harrow?

deereman10 · Mar 9, 2011

Luremaker said:
Deereman are you adding 7 more acres to the 15 you already plant with pumpkins? You are going to have one large patch.

Yes i have my work cut out for me. I'm really excited. Cant wait for the snow to melt

bigbull338 · Mar 9, 2011

lduren said:
What is the difference between a disk plow and a disk harrow?

a disk plow plows an breaks up the hard ground.where a disk harrow smooths out the ground an breaks up the big dirt clods.when we farmed we used a plowing disk to break up the land every year.

Gary Fowler · Mar 9, 2011

What everyone here is calling a disc plow is a plow set up on an angle like a moldboard but instead of turning plow, it used large disc blades. They basically do the same as a moldboard, but I think they will cut deeper and pull lighter than a moldboard. Both do a fine job of turning under a heavy vegetation crop. They should be used in the fall and the ground left all winter for all the vegetation to die and rot. It sort of defeats the purpose to turn under vegetation then till back up to the top. A tandem disc will do what you want to do for pumpkins. You dont need a powder bed like a tiller will give you and you dont need turning plow, disc, till all within a week of two. IF you just want to loosen up the soil and chop up the vegetation, then multiple disking will do fine for most all crops. Chisel plow in the fall to loosen up the soil so you get more water absorption down deep which helps the plants root better in the spring. Any tillage job is easier to pull in the fall than in the spring. The soil is not as dense in the fall as it is after setting fallow all winter and spring.

lduren · Mar 9, 2011

bigbull338 said:
a disk plow plows an breaks up the hard ground.where a disk harrow smooths out the ground an breaks up the big dirt clods.when we farmed we used a plowing disk to break up the land every year.

So a disk plow would use one or two large disks, and would plow deeper than a disk harrow. The google images search for both disk plows and disk harrows showed what looked like the same thing. Ken Sweet showed something that I would think of as a disk plow.

ZDB · Mar 9, 2011

I think sometimes the 2 pieces of equipment are miss labled the same thing today. Disc plow to me looks like a moldboard plow but with discs as the plow share instead. Never used one but they are touted to be good for cutting tree roots, turning small stumps, and working obstacles that would snag a moldboard plow.