What are these and where are they supposed to be?

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cphilip

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Kioti 2610HST, Toro Titan ZX 5400 w Kawaski, Bush Hog rotory, Farm KIng tiller, Land Pride Box blade, Tiger attachments forks, Land Pride Grooming mower, EA Wicked 55" Grapple, Superior 20' 7700# Equip Trailer
Just got this thing and this is how the dealer dropped it off.

Certainly those gold colored adjustable bars that are attached to the lift arms do not just lay there and flop around. Certainly they are to fasten somewhere but I do not see it. There is one link of chain one the right one and a U shaped coupler (missing its pin) on the left one.

Im stumped at the moment. I see no place to attach them. My old Ford had no such things on it.

Afraid to bush hog with it like this and my Dealer is out on the lake participating in a Bass tournament. If yall can shed some light so I don't have to mess up his day Im sure he would appreciate it.
 

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The pin in the U shape clevis goes in the hole I circled.
 

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So both of them attached to that hole? The pin is gone but I could temporarily bolt them I suppose. Anyone have a picture of that all in proper place?
 
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Ok.. I figured it out now. Missing one clevis and both pins. Gotta make a run to the dealer and get him to replace. Easiest thing to do
 
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All better now...
 

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Not quite. Both should be snug once you have your implement positioned where you want it. I noticed the slack on the right side, Having both snug will minimize any side to side motion. Hope this helps
 
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Another reason to look to snug up is to keep arms from hitting your tires!

I'm gong to perhaps learn something here... I tend to leave just a little play so that if the implement hits something while I'm going in reverse there will be a little give (if no slack then there may be something on the implement that will want to give/bend). Anyone else do this? (while, of course, making sure that the implement or arms aren't going to hit anything along their allowed travel constraints)
 
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Another reason to look to snug up is to keep arms from hitting your tires!

I'm gong to perhaps learn something here... I tend to leave just a little play so that if the implement hits something while I'm going in reverse there will be a little give (if no slack then there may be something on the implement that will want to give/bend). Anyone else do this? (while, of course, making sure that the implement or arms aren't going to hit anything along their allowed travel constraints)

I do the same for the same reasons and it has worked well for me.
 
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Another reason to look to snug up is to keep arms from hitting your tires!

I'm gong to perhaps learn something here... I tend to leave just a little play so that if the implement hits something while I'm going in reverse there will be a little give (if no slack then there may be something on the implement that will want to give/bend). Anyone else do this? (while, of course, making sure that the implement or arms aren't going to hit anything along their allowed travel constraints)
I also like to leave a little play in the side to side movement. As long as your lift arms don't scrape the tires you are ok.
 
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It was quite bad form for the dealer to deliver it like that......
 
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I'd be so disappointed in the Dealer..... :(

Congrats on the new tractor!!!!
 
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It was quite bad form for the dealer to deliver it like that......

I agree. I don't have him here to chew his ear because he was in a hurry to drop it off as he was heading to a fishing tournament. So I believe someone just got too hurried when they put the bush hog on. I can only imagine but I suspect that they were too tight and they had to pull the clips out and meant to readjust them but forgot to finish that up? All I can think of. But Ill let him fish and give him an earful on Monday. The guy that I talked to yesterday (son in law I think) was incredulous as to how that could happen. Me too. It can only be simple inattention and distraction.

As to the adjustment. I haven't done one of these in maybe 30 or 40 years! At most points you set it and forget it. At least thats been my experience. Its always been the bush hog that set that sort of thing and everything else was fine with it. I had the solid pin type stabilizers on the old 5030 Ford. And before that only chains on a previous 800. So I adjusted them and left some slack. Perhaps on hind sight now I left too much? I thought all you had to worry about was making sure the whole thing could not shift over into the wheels? Thats how I adjusted them. So they would shift over but not come near the wheels. Those of you that noticed and thought it was too much slack were right! Or perhaps I just did not get the jam nut tight as I thought I did? I dunno...

... as predicted! Wait for it!!!

Lost one of the turnbuckles today! The left one. After about two hours of hogging. Even with the jam nut tight it somehow worked itself loose. So perhaps snugger (is that a word?) was in order in hind site. There must be a happy medium that I missed. It would have near the end of my work on making a outside turn on a slope I felt it suddenly start to shake a bit more than usual. Looked back and it shifted way over to the right. The right one stopped it shy of being any danger but it was over more than it should be. So I stopped and shut the PTO off and got off and and looked and darned if the threaded eyes were all hanging there but the turnbuckle had gone missing! I of course stopped work and figured it was close by. But I cannot find it at all. So my bad now.

Darn things. Its like the three stooges for me this week. I gotta find one or get them to give me one. I think maybe i'm leaning towards getting some solid stabilizers. Anyone know a source?

At the moment I just need another turnbuckle. No time to get over to the dealer today.... maybe Tractor supply? Doesn't look anything special?
 
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Good luck finding a replacement t-buckle, many brands sizes and threads.
Happened to me also and I used a length of chain bolted at both ends to replace the side with missing t-buckle and then adjusted with the other side t-buckle.
Ended up buying a generic set and replaced both sides meanwhile the 'chain fix' lasted until arrival of replacements.
 
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If I found myself having to buy a replacement I would consider converting to pinned stabilizers.
 
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If I found myself having to buy a replacement I would consider converting to pinned stabilizers.

Thats what I am used to. And prefer. And now I got another reason to like them. Anything on the shelf out there that you guys have used with success?

It also appear the jam nut followed it off there. Of course! LOL...

Here is a picture of how I found it.
 

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As the dealer messed up big time have him get you the optional pin stabilizers and install at no cost.
 
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No matter what, stuff just manages to loosen up and take off. Watch out for the pins that connect the lower link arms to the tractor: I had a keeper bolt (not sure if Kioti uses these on all lines/models) bail on me and the pin popped out and I didn't realize that it had done so for quite some time- I was mowing and wondering why I was struggling to keep from digging in- going up a quick, steep step and turning the bush hog twisted all up and caught on my rear tire! Fortunately no damage (other than my pride- stupid me for not scrutinizing more closely). No idea if this was a bad torque job by the dealer or the factory ('m thinking the former). I mentioned it to my dealer and suggested the loc-tite the things: I think they're going to start doing that. A bolt was easy to come up with (dealer told me the size); the pin would have had to have been shipped from the factory! (and significantly more expensive).

It serves well to do periodic checked while operating the tractor. I'm fairly used to this on my B7800 because the top link always manages to loosen up, so I'm always adjusting (off the tractor, where I can get a look at everything else).

My tractor was delivered with the safety sign/triangle on the WRONG side of the tractor. To-date this is the only stupid thing I've spotted that the dealer did: and if it's the only thing then I'll be happy.
 
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As the dealer messed up big time have him get you the optional pin stabilizers and install at no cost.

I like the way you think...

So I did the temporary universal fix... seems to be ok for now.
 

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Thats what I am used to. And prefer. And now I got another reason to like them. Anything on the shelf out there that you guys have used with success?

It also appear the jam nut followed it off there. Of course! LOL...

Here is a picture of how I found it.

Of course, now you've got a nice hunk of metal (the turnbuckle) hiding, somewhere in that field. Just waiting to damage your slasher (bush hog) he next time you're working that field.

Find it!
 
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Of course, now you've got a nice hunk of metal (the turnbuckle) hiding, somewhere in that field. Just waiting to damage your slasher (bush hog) he next time you're working that field.

Find it!

Would love to find it. But seems like the best way to find something hiding in a field is to wait till you hear it! LOL

Most likely its buried under the cut brush and grass. I've walked and driven over the entire area. Its about 3 - 4 acres mind you. Two hours of cutting. I've not just narrowed it to the last area where I am 90% sure it came off... although I've worked that area over more than the rest. Im still hopeful it will be spotted. Maybe later in the winter.
 

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