What do you call this

[gemini5362]

Folks, That BAR that has all the holes in it that hooks between the lower draft arms IS called a TOOL BAR. The draw bar is the thing that you connect in the center of the tractor low under the rear end that you can use as a toe bar, Too make it a swinging draw bar you remove the pins to either side of where the draw bar connects, NOT all tractors have this option. Wish I had a mechanical drawing program to illustrate it.


David

A friend of mine started my inquiry by asking what that bar is called. Evidently from the posts I see here they are both called drawbars in various catologues or online sales where you would purchase them. I believe the swinging drawbar is definetly limited to the one that goes under the tractor for towing items.

It is interesting to note the differnet names that both are called though. I did notice one poster mention that swinging drawbars were more prevalent on older tractors.
My old MF - 65 did not have a swinging draw bar. My 2005 montana 4940C has one.

 

[dsgsr]

Drawbar, swinging

This may show a swinging drawbar.

Thanks Egon, that's the perfect illustration.

David

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Folks, That BAR that has all the holes in it that hooks between the lower draft arms IS called a TOOL BAR.


David

NOPE! A Tool bar is a totally different animal. What we're talking about in this thread is a DRAWBAR. A toolbar does (usually) mount on a 3-point hitch, but it serves a completely different purpose. They generally come in 2 sizes. (2-1/2" X 2-1/2" or 4" x 4") They're used to mount row units for cultivators, bedders, planters, ect. They allow row units to be positioned at various spacings dependent on desired row width.

The first 3-point drawbars were the brainchild of the man who invented the 3-point hitch, Harry Ferguson. Early Fords and Ferguson tractors had no drawbar mounted under the tractor to encourage the use of the 3-point hitch. The 3-point drawbar was available to allow drawn equipment to be hitched to the 3-point draft arms instead of the non-existant swinging drawbar on those tractors.

Here's the only picture I have available that shows a TOOLBAR. It's the 4" X 4" piece across the front of this planter that the 2 row units are hung from.

 

[Bird]

I did notice one poster mention that swinging drawbars were more prevalent on older tractors.

Perhaps he should have said "bigger" instead of "older"? Of course, I don't know for sure that's actually the case either, but in my own personal experience, that seems to be the case. Neither of my B series Kubotas had the ability to swing the drawbar to the side, but the old Oliver I used for cutting and baling hay did.

And Farmwithjunk has defined the "tool bar" as I know it. My Kubota dealer used to sell a small implement assortment; a single tool bar, onto which you could bolt a single bottom turning plow (moldboard), or two small middle busters (to make a bedder), or cultivator plows.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Perhaps he should have said "bigger" instead of "older"? Of course, I don't know for sure that's actually the case either, but in my own personal experience, that seems to be the case. Neither of my B series Kubotas had the ability to swing the drawbar to the side, but the old Oliver I used for cutting and baling hay did.

And Farmwithjunk has defined the "tool bar" as I know it. My Kubota dealer used to sell a small implement assortment; a single tool bar, onto which you could bolt a single bottom turning plow (moldboard), or two small middle busters (to make a bedder), or cultivator plows.

Actually, what we're now referring to as a "swinging drawbar" is listed in several of my Ferguson and Massey Ferguson parts books as a "fixed drawbar". Until just recently I'd never heard them called anything other than just simply a "drawbar".

 

[Bird]

The "fixed drawbar" term would seem to be more logical, but then some aren't "fixed". Tractor Supply Company used to have a website that I liked. I can't find anything on their current website. And I don't even know whether they still publish their "Blue Book" but they used to have, both in the Blue Book catalog and on their website, a drawing showing all the parts of the 3-point hitch, both drawbars, and the normal dimensions of the category I, II, and III hitches and hitch pins.

 

[AKfish]

That sure was a purty planter! Never knew that the mounting frame for the coulters and seed boxes, etc. was called a "toolbar".

That tractor was a biggin' too! Mine has a couple of adjustment holes to offset the drawbar --- but it don't look anything like that 8000 series!

Used to offset the drawbar to run the baler. Tryin' to remember if we had to rake with it set to one side too....?