what do you think?

[nhkabotab7800]

i have a 30HP tractor, a Kubota B7800, anyway i want to turn the back of the house from scrub brush ie: wild blueberry, sweet fern, virginia creeper, and various other weeds, into a grass lawn. as well as cut in some paths through the woods to walk.

i currently own a rear blade and a york rake, and was thinking of getting a 60" box blade. the thought being i could use it to rough up the back yard and smooth it out. you see.....before i moved here the previous owners had the back loged, and stumps removed and push into the edge of the woods.....but i digress into another project, any way the back is not real smooth shall we say.

Naturally i went to Chapple tractor to discuss what size implement, price ect. while there they suggested that i consider a scarifier instead of the box blade, as i could just switch beteen the Back blade and Scarifier. This would not be too big a deal as i have a quick hitch as well. i got the feeling that i was being steered away from the box blade ( sort of ) in part because it maybe a little strain on the tractor.

So what do ya'll think, is a 60" box blade getting to the otter limits for my tractor? would the scarifier ( which is only about $100 cheaper ) be a better match? i just think the box blade would have more uses and that i would save a bit of time switching between the scarifier and the rear blade. especially while making trails though the back woods.

i attached a pic because i just prefer threads with pictures....they have nothing to do with the question

 

[Willl]

i attached a pic because i just prefer threads with pictures....they have nothing to do with the question

My kinda poster.


I would think a 60" wouldn't be too much.

Don't box blades come with scarifiers ?

 

[fast1]

yea thats what i thought so too.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

I use my tractor for my clearing business and can speak inteligently to this. The box blade is a useful tool. It can be set up to ruff up the surface but once the box gets full the scarifiers don't do much. With a dedicated scarifier you can sink the shanks deep into the ground and really tear the soil up to much deeper depth than the box blade with scarifiers. As far a wear and power of your tractor the dedicated scarifiers will require more hp and torque than the blade. Especially if your on rock country.

Matt

 

[whistlepig]

i have a 30HP tractor, a Kubota B7800, anyway i want to turn the back of the house from scrub brush ie: wild blueberry, sweet fern, virginia creeper, and various other weeds, into a grass lawn. as well as cut in some paths through the woods to walk.

i currently own a rear blade and a york rake, and was thinking of getting a 60" box blade. the thought being i could use it to rough up the back yard and smooth it out. you see.....before i moved here the previous owners had the back loged, and stumps removed and push into the edge of the woods.....but i digress into another project, any way the back is not real smooth shall we say.

Naturally i went to Chapple tractor to discuss what size implement, price ect. while there they suggested that i consider a scarifier instead of the box blade, as i could just switch beteen the Back blade and Scarifier. This would not be too big a deal as i have a quick hitch as well. i got the feeling that i was being steered away from the box blade ( sort of ) in part because it maybe a little strain on the tractor.

So what do ya'll think, is a 60" box blade getting to the otter limits for my tractor? would the scarifier ( which is only about $100 cheaper ) be a better match? i just think the box blade would have more uses and that i would save a bit of time switching between the scarifier and the rear blade. especially while making trails though the back woods.

i attached a pic because i just prefer threads with pictures....they have nothing to do with the question

I did the same thing with a B7800 last year except I was cleaning out honeysuckle. wild rose, and black berry. I brush hogged and then ran a disc over it about 10 times. That worked very well. The York rake would make things even better. I don't have a rake. I would brush hog, rake, and disc. The disc does an awesome job. I think a PTO tiller would do a bit better than a disc but I don't have a tiller. I picked up a used disc for $100.00 verses $1,200 for a PTO tiller.

 

[taborekle]

I have a LandPride RTR0550 reversing tiller (50 inch) that I pull behind my 29HP Kubota 2920. I think that a tiller would do a wonderfull job of preping the land for seeding. If you're land is rock hard, then you probably would do better to scariface it or plow it a few times before tillering. If you don't have a scarifer or plow, then wait for a rain and tiller when the soil is softer.

The reversing tillering tends to push the the dirt ahead of itself, which allows the blades to grind up the soil several times before it's finally spit out the back. Since it's pushing the dirt, it can have the added benefit of smoothing the land and filling small depressions. Most tillers allow you to set the depth of the tillering down to as much as 6 inches. You may have to make several passes to get the tiller all the way down to the depth you desire.

The tillered soil is very soft and evenly ground up. You could broadcast spread grass seed, and then simply re-tiller with the tiller set to only a inch or two of depth to burry the seed.

 

[santacruzer]

I use my tractor for my clearing business and can speak inteligently to this. The box blade is a useful tool. It can be set up to ruff up the surface but once the box gets full the scarifiers don't do much. With a dedicated scarifier you can sink the shanks deep into the ground and really tear the soil up to much deeper depth than the box blade with scarifiers. As far a wear and power of your tractor the dedicated scarifiers will require more hp and torque than the blade. Especially if your on rock country.

Matt

Matt's right on. I had to find a way to get my box blade scarifiers deeper into the soil without loading up the box blade thus rendering the scarifiers useless.

What I did was I had some steel welded and holes drilled further back on the box blade at the point where the to top link attaches to the box blade. This enabled me to have much more of the scarifiers exposed and I could get deeper into the ground without loading the box blade.

However, going deeper into the ground requires more HP. I have 23 HP and if I have to I can remove a scarifier or three so I'm not digging too deep and bogging down due to lack of HP.

A dedicated set up for a sub soiler or scarifier so you can go WAY deep will require a lot of HP... and that may work if your soil condition is right.

The set up I have gets me deep enough without buying a dedicated set up. I personally would not have a tractor without a box blade. I find it the most useful attachment besides the FEL.

I'll try to send a pic but no promises. Paul

 

[LBrown59]

i have a 30HP tractor, a Kubota B7800, anyway i want to turn the back of the house from scrub brush ie: wild blueberry, sweet fern, virginia creeper, and various other weeds, into a grass lawn. as well as cut in some paths through the woods to walk.

i currently own a rear blade and a york rake, and was thinking of getting a 60" box blade. the thought being i could use it to rough up the back yard and smooth it out. you see.....before i moved here the previous owners had the back loged, and stumps removed and push into the edge of the woods.....but i digress into another project, any way the back is not real smooth shall we say.

Naturally i went to Chapple tractor to discuss what size implement, price ect. while there they suggested that i consider a scarifier instead of the box blade, as i could just switch beteen the Back blade and Scarifier. This would not be too big a deal as i have a quick hitch as well. i got the feeling that i was being steered away from the box blade ( sort of ) in part because it maybe a little strain on the tractor.

So what do ya'll think, is a 60" box blade getting to the otter limits for my tractor? would the scarifier ( which is only about $100 cheaper ) be a better match? i just think the box blade would have more uses and that i would save a bit of time switching between the scarifier and the rear blade. especially while making trails though the back woods.

Here is what I use to do the task you are talking ABOUT.