Some one mentioned a lumber yard? What's that? I haven't seen or been in a true lumber yard since I was a teenager. It's all "just in time supply". That's not what I call it, though. The same with auto supply store. Unless it's a air freshener or polish for chrome wheels forget about them stocking it. Personall service from knowlegable sale people? Ain't gonna happen, welcome to the new order. I had to trouble shoot the TV cable problem for the cable installation guys last week. Turns out they had a bad line drop from the pole. The cable TV company outsources all installations to who-ever contractors (anyone with a small truck and long ladder on top). I know, I know this is just another rant. A guy gets pretty inventive always making do with what's available and learning to fix things, 'cause, we're on our own in this world. bjr