What to do with a large amount of waste oil?

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BatteryCharger

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I have a chance to pickup about 300 gallons of good quality waste motor oil inside of some brand new steel 55 gallon drums completely free. I hope to be using it as fuel in the next few months, but currently I have no way to use it.

Let's say I decide to bring all this oil home and then decide not to use it as fuel. What the heck would I do with 300 gallons of oil? Will somebody take it for free? I don't want to get stuck in a bad situation because of this crap.
 
   / What to do with a large amount of waste oil? #2  
It is my understanding that some recycle companies will pay you or pick it up for free. Find out who is picking up Discount Auto parts waste oil or Jiffy Lube's...

Joe
 
   / What to do with a large amount of waste oil? #3  
There's a reason it's free.... Normally you have to pay to get rid of large quantities of used oil. Even the folks that have waste oil burners like to know where their oil is coming from, (no water, fuel, antifreeze, etc).

If you have a burner go for it, if you're taking it thinking it's money in the bank and you'll do something with it in the future, pass.
 
   / What to do with a large amount of waste oil? #4  
In TX I used to work for a Firestone/Bridgestone store and they took used oil for free. Also your local municipalities should take it for free as well. Some fire departments take it for free. Now as far as 300 gal.... I'm not sure anyone would accept that much. But you could probably split it up and get rid of a little at a time.

That being said... I wouldn't get it unless you are SURE you will use it. If you don't use it... it will surely be a pain in the butt until you get rid of all of it.
 
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If you have a large enough quanity of oil a waste oil company will come out and take it from you, I work at a power plant and in the last year they stopped charging to pick up our waste oil. My boss said a couple of venders offered to buy our waste oil. Just make sure its only oil not a hazardous oil mix, that will cost you a fortune to get rid of.
 
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Have a business friend in this area that uses a waste oil furnace to heat his office building. He tells me that waste oil may be brought to him and he takes all that he can get, however it takes a special license for him to go off site to collect it himself. The license isn't cheap so he doesn't have one. This may be different in your area.
 
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Battery Charger -

I am a recent and avid convert to the idea of using waste oil for heating. It seems to me the closest thing to a free lunch that we have remaining to us in this petro-challenged world of ours. I have a feeling that more and more people will be waking up and smelling the sludge, so it's probably best to jump on this bandwagon before it's over-crowded.

I've done some research and so far the best bet for waste oil heaters seems to be a company called Black Gold. Many of the big, well-known companies here in my area are using them and they have nothing but good things to say about them. They have three sizes - 140K BTU, mid 200's, and mid 300's. They're not cheap, starting at around $7,000 including a 250-gallon tank with a built-in system for preheating the oil and keeping contaminants like water, antifreeze and sludge from getting into the burner. But hey, the payback period doesn't seem bad at ALL.

I have a fairly well-insulated shop, 3,000 sq. ft. in a steel building with 14 foot ceilings. They estimate that the 140K would be plenty and that I'd use about 1,200 gallons a year to be toasty warm. Everyone I talk to says to make sure I use ceiling fans set at a low speed. I have a couple, and I'm going to have about 6 in all.

The next question obviously is where to get the petro to burn, and what's acceptable. You'd be off to a good start with that 300 gallons, and if it's being presented as "good, quality used motor oil" it sounds like filet mignon to me. Even if it had water/antifreeze in it, which it just might not, that wouldn't be a big deal. It would be at the bottom of the barrels and could be fairly easily removed and recycled. It also doesn't seem to matter (and can actually be beneficial) if the stuff you burn contains transmission fluid (burns GREAT), gear oil (OK in small doses, doesn't burn great), paint thinner (gotta burn great), hydraulic oil (burns well) or a wide variety of other petro products. And as long as they don't represent a large percentage of what goes into your main tank (too volatile if burned in too high a concentration?), I believe you could accept certain amounts of lacquer thinner, many types of solvents, naptha, benzene, you name it. The biggest no-no that I've heard of is chlorinated solvents, for instance some types of brake cleaner. I believe it has to do with the CFC thing that made us all switch over from R-12 refrigerants to R-134. I could not in good conscience burn chlorinated petro products, and when I go this route (and soon ... it's gettin' COLD in CT) I will probably invest in a chlorine detector and reject any batches of oil that contain it in unacceptable quantities.

Contrary to what might be a popular misconception about waste oil burners, Black Gold claims that their emmisions are "100 times cleaner than those from a single automobile". Hearing is not believing, and I remain highly skeptical about that one, but for now I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. They do have some pretty impressive technology at work. The bottom line seems to be that they're pretty environmentally sound, and a lot better than dumping the stuff on the ground, or put into barrels and THEN ending up in the ground.

It's late and I'm tired, but I have a few thoughts about how to come by waste oil to keep the home fires burning. More to come hopefully.

WARM regards, John D.

P.S. I don't claim to be an expert in all that is involved in the environmental aspects of heating with waste oil. If I'm off the mark anywhere, I welcome any input.
 
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I was researching them several years ago and other mfg's stated I might want to stay away from them. Shortly after that If I remember correctly BlackGold had lawsuits against them and went out of business. They were since bought buy another company or they changed thier name.
 
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CTyler -

That does not jibe with anything I know about this company. Can you provide any credible sources to back up what you've said? I would hate to see what appears to be a very reputable company with an excellent product tarred with the wrong brush. Also, this would not be the first time I ever heard of one company bashing anothers' product. So far, it's no more than hearsay, which doesn't go very far with me.

Black Gold waste oil heaters, boiler and furnaces are manufactured by a company called EnergyLogic, formerly Black Gold Corp. A link to their website is at the end of this post.

IF, and to me it remains a very big if, they had any legal problems in the past, they now appear to be doing very well and selling a product with leading-edge technology and many satisfied customers. The proof is in the pudding, and I have spoken to several very happy owners of Black Gold heaters who have been using them for years and love them. And as I said in my post, many other very well-established outfits in my area use them as well.

I plan on buying one even if their entire management is currently serving time.

EnergyLogic - Black Gold waste oil heaters
 
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I dont have the desire to go back and re-reseach the info again. Black Gold heaters and web site were off the market for a while. I'm not sure if Energylogic bought Black Gold or what the details are, if the heat exchanger was redesigned etc...
 

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