What would you do?

   / What would you do? #1  

Freds

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This seems to be the forum for general advice. And boy do I need it.

I have a small business and the VCT flooring was in need of a professional refinishing. I called up a cleaning place in town here and got a price. The owner of the business gave it to me and assured me of a professional job, tape this, block off that... there was to be no mess with his stripping and re-waxing of the floors (he still needs to come back and burnish them) and he was to be done by 4:00, as I had customers coming shortly after that.

So today, right at 8:30 when he said, he comes out with his crew, two young men. He introduces me, everything is good, his workers have been great all day, very polite when I've run into them, but I stayed out of the office area until 4:00, when the one worker came back to give me a hand moving the bigger items back into place. The floors are still wet in some areas. And it reeks. I was told there would be a mild smell, but the chemical smell was so bad it was loosening the grip of post-its and various items I had taped to the walls. Why they didn't crack some windows I don't know. And why they didn't leave the fans they brought going when the guy waxing left after the last coat, I don't know that either :confused:
But that's not the problem...

The problem is, whatever they were using, either the stripper or the wax, splashed onto a couple of my stained interior doors and the baseboard in quite a few area. I'm sure most of us here have stained wood before. You know that build up you get at corners that you have to wipe off or it runs and looks like crap? Yep. I got that all over the place. It looks like whoever did the trimwork and stained the doors on my building didn't know what he was doing. All because of whatever they were splashing around and not very careful with. So I said something to the workers.
They came back with Murphy's oil soap, but that didn't touch what they had done. And the one guy said he spoke with his boss and his boss will stop out to talk to me about it. He also said... and here's the smokescreen that most every contractor likes to put up, that it looks like whoever stained the wood didn't put a coat of varnish on it and this usually doesn't happen. Whatever. You saw what you were working with before you started. Don't try to put blame on someone else, IMO. I came back with, the boss told me that you guys were going to tape off everything. I also showed him a box of 8' fluorescent lights in the hallway that had been sitting on the floor. When they did the one room, they put down enough liquid to bleed under the wall and soak into the box, collapsing it. That's a lot of liquid seeping around. And I can only hope the drywaller didn't run the drywall all the way down to the floor or it's surely going to wick up all that moisture and bubble my paint. Don't you think?

So anyway, sorry so long but I wanted to provide all the details, IMO the contractor and his crew were nice enough and professional enough, but they screwed up. And can it be overlooked? Yes... but I'm going to have to see those splash marks and runs until the day I die. And so are my customers. They might not notice the baseboards so much, but the one door is right across from my entrance. That will get surely noticed. And everytime I walk into that building I'm going to see every little mark. That's just the way I am.
So is there a fix for this? I know we've got some woodworkers here. Is there something they can wipe down the stained surfaces and blend in these dark marks of whatever it was? I was thinking of telling him to vuy me a brass kickplate for the one door, but I've got five doors in this room, would I put it on all of them? Won't that looks stupid on a door that has a knob? And I don't think they go across the whole door anyway, or as high as the splashes are on the one door.

This is where you guys come in :thumbsup:
What do you think?
 
   / What would you do? #2  
What is VCT flooring?

I'd get an estimate (or make one up) for the refinishing of the woodwork, and deduct that from the floor finishing bill.

Very frustrating to get some workers these days that don't have regard for what is around them. Have been there, and had that done to me too.

Wish you luck, but I wouldn't pay the bill.
 
   / What would you do? #3  
It is just too bad they did not mask off the doors at least at the bottom. I think about the only thing that can be done is to remove the door, sand it down slightly and then refinish it.

Same goes for the baseboard, but there it is a "on your knees" and hand sand then stain and refinish.

Should the contractor do this, yes, will he I don't think so. I would not add anything to the door like a brass kick plate, it is just a band aid for a botched job.
 
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#4  
Thanks for your input.
VCT stand for vinyl commercial tile, like you see in hospitals and schools (and such). 12" squares laid on adhesive, not peel 'n stick.

Refinishing... that thought came to mind, but what are the chances a refinished door or baseboard is going to match the other doors and baseboard? And it's just not baseboards, he'd have to re-do every piece of trim in the rooms if it's not an exact match.
And I don't think he'd go that route either, even though he is "bonded & insured", but I don't think I would want him to either. I closed for most of the day to get the floors redone, now I'm supposed to close up to have workers ripping off baseboard (and hopefully not mucking anything else up) and staining doors? That is a major part of my dilema. Now that the damage is done, it would be more of a hassle to get things right.
Do I really have a leg to stand on if I refuse payment?
 
   / What would you do? #5  
The milk is already spilled.

How it gets cleaned up is the question. Set your mind up as to where you are willing to draw the battle lines. Free job? Doubt it.

Make him use his bonding and insured policy. That is what it is for. But don't let him do the work. Get estimates from others that will (maybe) do a good job of refinishing.

IMO. :)

Some pics of the problem would be good to better understand your dilema.
 

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