Hi all, the local dealer has a TC45D ,no loader, 600 hours or so , good condition(not sure what year). Supersteer, 4wd(or should I say MFWD?).Hydro. While I am looking for a TC35 or up with a loader, this just happens to be in town. He shot me a price of 13900 upon first inquiry. Then told me about 6k for a NH loader(I am guessing that was an installed price). I do think that 45hp is more than I may need, but if a good deal can be arranged, then it's ok with me. I have been looking at the TC33da, but kinda fell in love with the larger look of the TC35 frame and get the feeling that I won't regret going with the larger frame.
What's it worth? TC45D
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Hi Formula 1, I would want to know what year the TC45D was manufactured--has it been sitting for most of its life, or is it almost new? If its on the new side then the price with a loader seems reasonable. In 2006 I was looking at the TC30 something tractor's, too. Largely that was because the local dealer recommended this size based on the number of acres (10.5) that I had. I came across a 6-month old TC45DA SuperSteer at another dealer with 150 hours. It was less money (about the cost you are being quoted with a loader) than the TC30 and a platform size larger, so I purchased it. It was the right decision based on my needs, and I now know that I would have been disappointed in the smaller tractor. We don't know how you intend to use yours, but unless you have a constrained space I am betting that you will be also be happy you went with the larger size. I love my TC45DA.
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that's a fair (not great, not bad) price for a TC45.
The problem is the loader, you'll probably have to go NH loader because of the supersteer, which also makes the loader stick out really far.
Now you're at 20 grand, and you can get a TC45 with 500-1000 hours with loader for 15k or less.
If you like the TC35, the TC45 is the exact same size, just a few more hp.
Once you pick the frame size, get the most horsepower in that size.
I'd keep looking, you can find a TC35/40/45 with loader for 15k.
The problem is the loader, you'll probably have to go NH loader because of the supersteer, which also makes the loader stick out really far.
Now you're at 20 grand, and you can get a TC45 with 500-1000 hours with loader for 15k or less.
If you like the TC35, the TC45 is the exact same size, just a few more hp.
Once you pick the frame size, get the most horsepower in that size.
I'd keep looking, you can find a TC35/40/45 with loader for 15k.
Thanks guys. I saw a 2005 TC55DA New Holland tractor that has 301.2 hrs,
4WD, Shuttle Shift Transmission, Super Steer and Sensi-Trac, 55hp Engine, 47hp PTO, and an 18LA Front End Loader. It is listed on the local Craigslist, asking 21,500.BTW, doesn't the 'D' in this model denote that it has a HYDRO trans? That is more than I want to spend, but it is also just an asking price.
Again, I don't think I really need more than the 35hp engine, but when I buy cars, I ALWAYS go for the big engine!
4WD, Shuttle Shift Transmission, Super Steer and Sensi-Trac, 55hp Engine, 47hp PTO, and an 18LA Front End Loader. It is listed on the local Craigslist, asking 21,500.BTW, doesn't the 'D' in this model denote that it has a HYDRO trans? That is more than I want to spend, but it is also just an asking price.
Again, I don't think I really need more than the 35hp engine, but when I buy cars, I ALWAYS go for the big engine!
This is in my area as well. It's 2wd, and I was planning on buying 4wd only. Plus, I don't know anything about the Shuttle Shift.
2004 New Holland Tractor Model TC45 - eBay (item 160347091927 end time Jul-16-09 19:54:52 PDT)
2004 New Holland Tractor Model TC45 - eBay (item 160347091927 end time Jul-16-09 19:54:52 PDT)
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The TC55DA is NOT a hydrostatic transmission. The "D" stands for "Deluxe" and does not always denote HST. The TC48DA and TC55DA tractors are gear transmissions.
Having said that, when you drop down to the TC35/40/45DA models, all "D" models have HST. That's true for all the smaller sized tractors as well.
There are a lot of differences between a TC35D and a TC45D model tractor.
- The TC35D has a 3-cyl diesel and will not be as smooth as the 4-cyl diesel in the TC40/45D.
- The TC35D has 2250 psi hydraulics and the TC40/45DA has 2500 psi.
- The TC35D has lest lift at the 3PH and Loader because of the lower hydraulic pressure.
- There are several physical components of the rear transmission and rear differential that are different on the TC35D and the TC40/45D. You can find these by looking at illustrated parts diagrams online if you wish to do the research.
- The PTO of the TC35D will see the biggest difference to the TC40/45D
- The transmission on all three tractors is the same. The HST relief is set to 5000 psi, so you will see the HST go into bypass easier with the TC40/45D. You may feel you aren't using all the engine's power and you would be correct. Except that it weighs less, the TC35D can pull just as much as the TC40/45D.
- The TC35D has 2250 psi hydraulics and the TC40/45DA has 2500 psi.
- The TC35D has lest lift at the 3PH and Loader because of the lower hydraulic pressure.
- There are several physical components of the rear transmission and rear differential that are different on the TC35D and the TC40/45D. You can find these by looking at illustrated parts diagrams online if you wish to do the research.
- The PTO of the TC35D will see the biggest difference to the TC40/45D
- The transmission on all three tractors is the same. The HST relief is set to 5000 psi, so you will see the HST go into bypass easier with the TC40/45D. You may feel you aren't using all the engine's power and you would be correct. Except that it weighs less, the TC35D can pull just as much as the TC40/45D.
So there you have it. The major differences are 4-cyl, more hydraulic pressure, more PTO hp, and some beefier components where needed in the powertrain.
How about your price? The TC45D without a FEL originally sold for about $17,500 with the SuperSteer option. You are paying full price for the loader and installation. That requires a joystick and loader mounting posts be installed on the tractor in addition to the loader. When a tractor is ordered with a loader from the factory, it comes as a "loader ready" tractor with those things installed. Your dealer will have to do that job and that drives the price up. Even so, I think I'd try to negotiate a package price for tractor and installed FEL about $1000 less. You might only get $500, but I'd try for $1000. After all, you will only have a warranty on the loader. In my way of thinking, a warranty on the tractor and loader is worth $3000. If your tractor doesn't have a warranty, it's worth $2000 less than the new price just for that, even if it had zero hours. That makes the initial price about $15,500 (so to speak) and the $13900 would be only $1600 off the new price for a 600 hr tractor. That's why I think you should try for another $1000 off.
I think I'd tell the dealer I'd make an offer of $12900 for the tractor and pay the $6k for the loader as a package deal and only after the loader was installed so you can inspect the job. I would not buy the tractor and take it home until the dealer gets in the loader and has you bring the tractor back for installation. There are so many things that can go wrong in that situation that I would really try to avoid that unless the dealer really made me a sweet deal. What I'd want is a tractor fully configured and tested by me before I'd sign the dotted line. That's the only way you will make sure you get the loader installed to your satisfaction. Just my opinion. . .
Good luck with your tractor shopping!
Thanks for your comprehensive info. I must say that I think I have decided to go one of two routes: TC33DA with loader(my original idea that I can't shake because my neighbor has one), or try to work a deal with this TC45D with supersteer and add the loader. Of course I am still looking for a 40D or 45D with a loader, but the 45D in question is in town at the NH dealer and has just under 700 hrs and the original owner is local and someone I know. Like I told the dealer, I would rather find one with a loader where the loader has depreciated with the dern tractor!
I can't thank everyone enough for your qualified opinions.
I can't thank everyone enough for your qualified opinions.
