When is a cat 1 3PH not a cat 1 3PH?

   / When is a cat 1 3PH not a cat 1 3PH? #1  

jaybrad

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Massey Ferguson GC 2310TLB
According to a local green and orange dealer, when it is on a the back of a GC2310.

Monday I bought a (very) leftover Super Apache wood chipper and have had one challenge after another trying to get it fit to my tractor (the full story is on the Attachment forum).

To try and make a long story a bit shorter, the above dealer (who BTW is a pretty good one most of the time) says that the problem I have is that my tractor isn't really a cat 1 3PH, it is a cat 0/1 - because "SCUTs are really just big lawnmowers with a diesel engine" (not actually a direct quote, but my recollection of his comments).

So now I have a chipper with no useable PTO shaft since the original one was destroyed in our attempt to make it fit my 2310.

So my question is this: should I be able to take the shaft apart at the 2 universal joints and replace both pieces cut to the right length? I'm out of state on business now and don't have the pieces to study - but after just talking with the service manager, it appears that I am on my own with this project.

So I'm turning to the friendly and experienced folks at TBN to offer some guidance and share some experience on how I can get this working.

Thanks!

Jay
 
   / When is a cat 1 3PH not a cat 1 3PH? #2  
If nothing else, we've had good experience getting replacement PTO parts through A&I Products. If you know what you need and go to them with measurements and specs, odds are that they can find something that will work.
 
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This is not a new problem and we cut many PTO shafts so that they fit properly to the tractor and implement. Roto-tillers three point fertilizer and seed spreaders all come into play when it comes to making sure the shafts are the right length so they don't bottom out and cause damage to the tractor or machine.
 
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jaybrad said:
According to a local green and orange dealer, when it is on a the back of a GC2310.
To try and make a long story a bit shorter, the above dealer (who BTW is a pretty good one most of the time) says that the problem I have is that my tractor isn't really a cat 1 3PH, it is a cat 0/1

I don't agree with the term category 0/1, There are implements that can be configured to fit on both 0 & 1 hitches. They are marketed as 0/1 implements. But the hitch, because of a difference in pin sizes, is going to be one or the other.

What the 2300's have is a limited category 1-3 point hitch. Limited, because of the size of the machine, (I do agree with them here, that they are big lawn mowers).

The limits I have seen discussed are primarily lifting height, (occasionally an implement like a post hole digger will have limited ground clearance). and limited width, (some implements will require moving the lifting pins to the inside, rather than the outside of the implement), to provide clearance between the tires.

The sub compact implements that some offer, do address these problems from a design stand point, and eliminate any issues in these areas. However, I have not seen a post yet, where there was a correctly sized for the machine, category 1 implement that just could not be used at all, on a 2300 hitch.

Don't think the Kubota BX "lawn mowers" they sell, are any different. Same set up.
 

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