When to worry about play/slack

Todd8665 · Jul 13, 2015

Hopefully this makes some sense to you all....This doesn't seem to happen all the time but:

Most often this occurs when I drive my 2210 forward down a incline, then stop and press in the clutch...switch to reverse and let out the clutch. You can hear and feel slop/play as the gears transition from pushing forward to reverse. It's a half a second or so of "free play" then a audible "Clunk" as the play is gone and now the gears are pushing/working. What is normal free play and what is excessive...

How worried should I be? I'm thinking about buying the Turf Tire kit from Hoye, but don't want to sink the $$ into it if I am looking at gear/rear end issues...

clemsonfor · Jul 13, 2015

HALF a second!!!! but you have a power shift not really a true all geared tranny. I wonder if the delay is more in the pump and clutches and the clunk is just the gears meshing and catching. I have a hard time beleiving any gears in your tractor could turn for a half a second before catching....i am no expert though.

California · Jul 13, 2015

clemsonfor said:
I have a hard time believing any gears in your tractor could turn for a half a second before catching....

I believe a straight manual transmission can have a half second of slack. This brings back memories of my first Willys Wagon. Looked like this but even older.

Apparently retired by a logging company (caulk boot dimples in the floors) when it wouldn't run any more, then a Studebaker V8 (gotta be a long time ago!) put in that had blowby like a locomotive by the time I bought it 30 years later. This had gear whine that would make you crazy. At idle, it seemed like a full second of gear slack in its lowest low range gear when lurching over rough ground at an idle. With 4.27 differentials this was geared so low that it was reasonable to get out and clear obstacles ahead while the vehicle inched forward.

But for the YM2210 - I think the slack is just what Clemsonfor said, the same delay you see in a car's A/T when you move the shift lever and the fluid pressure gets routed to the right circuit to engage a clutch pack. A feature, not a bug. I think the delay is designed so that shifts aren't too harsh. I wouldn't worry about it.

normde2001 · Jul 13, 2015

Could be sticking relief valve or broken spring.

Todd8665 · Jul 13, 2015

Thanks for the responses!

All due respect it doesn't seem or feel like the delay from the PS. When I am letting out the clutch I fell as though I have full power from the powershift. It seems as though I am spinning the axel and/or a shaft and it takes a moment to engage in the differiential, when it does the differential makes an audible clunk.

winston1 · Jul 13, 2015

Is your differential operating correctly? That is, if you mash right or left brake will that stop that wheel from turning and the other continue? Of course with the steering wheel turned and moving.

Todd8665 · Jul 13, 2015

winston1 said:
Is your differential operating correctly? That is, if you mash right or left brake will that stop that wheel from turning and the other continue? Of course with the steering wheel turned and moving.

Thanks Winston. Haven't done that in a while, so ill try it out.

Todd8665 · Sep 1, 2015

Todd8665 said:
Thanks Winston. Haven't done that in a while, so ill try it out.

Gearing up for winter, so i checked my issue with this method. Differential seems to be working properly. I think/hope that the noise i hear is either a misdiagnosed, by me, delay in the powershift, or that one of the inside bearings on my axel (and not the dog gear failing) is causing a wobble that i hear/feel. I'll keep an eye on it for now and see what happens...