Where do you mount your spinner?

[Cliff_Johns]

I have a spinner (suicide knob) for my JD4110, but I was wondering where on the wheel to mount it. I thought I would start with it at the bottom left, maybe 8 oclock or so, but I figured some of you already did the trial and error to figure out where on the wheel it's best to put it.

Cliff

 

[chim]

Mine's at 8:00. It's handy there when using the FEL or the 3PH controls (which are on the right). Those two controls need "operated" the most on my tractor. The PTO lever is on the left, but the tractor is standing still when going in and out....................chim

 

[beenthere]

Cliff
You likely can mount that spinner anywhere that it will fit (with the 'spokes'). Reason I say that is the steering wheel will not stay in the same place realtive to the straight-line direction the tractor is going. This is due to the hydraulic power steering, which is not 'geared' between the steering wheel and the front wheels. This may not be very clear, but drive straight down the road and see if the deer symbol in the center of the steering wheel stays in the same position. I suspect it will be doing slow backward or forward summersaults as you drive.

In the old days, when no power steering, that spinner would stay in position. Then all you had to do was be prepared for the spinner to be torn out of your fingers when the front wheels hid a dead furrow or a rock (not as bad on Deere tractors with fancy front axle on the row crop tractors). Even when getting power assist, the steering wheel was 'geared' to the front wheels. Now, its different.

 

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> You likely can mount that spinner anywhere that it will fit (with the 'spokes'). Reason I say that is the steering wheel will not stay in the same place realtive to the straight-line direction the tractor is going. This is due to the hydraulic power steering, which is not 'geared' between the steering wheel and the front wheels. This may not be very clear, but drive straight down the road and see if the deer symbol in the center of the steering wheel stays in the same position. I suspect it will be doing slow backward or forward summersaults as you drive.
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Beenthere is right. It doesn't matter where you mount it it won't remain constant. I noticed that on my TC-40D the day that I put one on.

 

[chim]

The in-laws had a Nasty Ferguson with steering like you guys are talking about. My B7500 is different (and I thought the CUT's shared this) in that the steering wheel is always in the same position when the front wheels are straight.............chim

 

[755inNY]

<font color="blue"> Reason I say that is the steering wheel will not stay in the same place realtive to the straight-line direction the tractor is going. </font>

Same situation on my 755. The spinner is never in the same place twice. This surpised me at first then I relaized there was no geared or solid connection between the steering wheel and front tires. I can turn the wheel all the way to the left until the front wheels turn no more and then can get the steering wheel to continue to turn left with a little extra force.

Jeff

 

[Cliff_Johns]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( the steering wheel will not stay in the same place realtive to the straight-line direction the tractor is going. )</font>

I had not noticed this. I guess I'll start it out at 8:00 and watch it wander around the clock.

Thanks,

Cliff

 

[LBrown59]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( the steering wheel will not stay in the same place realtive to the straight-line direction the tractor is going. )</font>

I had not noticed this. I guess I'll start it out at 8:00 and watch it wander around the clock.

Thanks,

Cliff
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<font color="brick">I guess I'll start it out at 8:00 and watch it wander around the clock.
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[Egon]

Valuing my digit's and abhorring pain my spinner is still mounted in the box on the store shelf. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Egon

 

[Gary_in_Indiana]

<font color="blue"> "Valuing my digit's and abhorring pain my spinner is still mounted in the box on the store shelf." </font> /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I used to think that way until I got one. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I've been able to maintain the same number of fingers with no infliction of pain from my spinner. Further, since I just steer with my palm now, I don't have to worry about hooking my thumb or fingers in the spokes when I'm at the end of row mowing or making a lot of sharp turns using the FEL. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[Egon]

Betcha you got power steering. I don't.

Egon

 

[Soundguy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I've been able to maintain the same number of fingers with no infliction of pain from my spinner. Further, since I just steer with my palm now, I )</font>

Ditto.. and depending on the steering.. some full hydro steering units don't even offer much.. or any kickback from tire movement.

I also found that on my ex-NH 1920, that I could slowly move the steering wheel/spinner bck to 'top' position without affecting steering much.. reminded me of the 'balistic' settings on computer mice.. short quick moves yielded a big steering response.. where as very slow long movements give a very gradual steering response.

Soundguy

 

[Egon]

Okay- okay fellows. Seems you have the spinner use down pat. I haven't and will gladly turn my share of the spinner supply over to you. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Egon

 

[sneaky_pete]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( In the old days, when no power steering)</font>

Bah! Kids today and their newfangled inventions - what is the world coming to? Next thing you know, they'll want an hydraulic top link and a cab with refrigerated air.

Pete

 

[Steve_Miller]

Egon,
I had one on my old B7200. It was great, you just had to remember to hold on tight in the unknown territories. You probably don't have to ask how I learned this, although I never broke any fingers. (a few bruises though, until the brain starts to remember things like pain)

Steve

 

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> I used to think that way until I got one. I've been able to maintain the same number of fingers with no infliction of pain from my spinner. Further, since I just steer with my palm now, I don't have to worry about hooking my thumb or fingers in the spokes when I'm at the end of row mowing or making a lot of sharp turns using the FEL.
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I'm thinking a lot like Gary on this one. I never had a spinner on my last tractor as it wasn't equipped with power steering so I was always cautious about feedback from the steering wheel on uneven ground. But after reading all the posts about them here at the TBN site I quickly added one to our TC-40D SS. The spinner in conjunction with the SuperSteer axle really makes tight turns a breeze using just the palm of the hand on the spinner.

The spinner position is never constant because of the nature of the power steering but that has never been a problem, you just learn to adjust hand positions accordingly.

 

[Egon]

Hold on tight - thats the problem - there are those moments when all is going well - then one of those little holes and things turn real quick.

Maybe it's because years ago I got to drive employers no power steering 4x4's on constrution jobs that entailed backing up and running at problem hoping you could get thru. Remember thrashing two front ends in two days- mechanics were not happy. And thats not counting the exhaust systems I left in the mud after a D9 pulled me thru.

Egon /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[texastomtom]

You mean you can get a cab without a a/c ?

wow

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[GerardC]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The in-laws had a Nasty Ferguson....... chim )</font>

LOL!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Gerard

 

[Varmintmist]

If you like Nasty Fur goose un you'll like this one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm with EGON on this one, I decided to stay away from spinners after being taught the hard way on a All Us Chompers /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif grader. The steering wheel was mounted strait up and down so the spinner could contact hands, legs belly, arms whatever. It did. Just turn the wheel with the palm of your hand. Power steering makes spinners obsolete IMHO.