I ended up walking from the Kioti because of the lack of leg room. I'm 6'3 with size 13 feet and I had a **** of a time with the pedals. My foot usually got caught up on the underside of the clutch while trying to swing it to the top side.
Kioti seams like the better of the two when it comes to specs, especially weight. The price for the
L3800 was way too high after reviewing the bigger bang for your buck Kioti.
So what to do. I found a LS dealer 2.5 hours away and decided to check out the inventory. Turns out they sell a great tractor with decent specs accross the board. The LS G3033. I took it for a test drive and was really impressed with the leg room and heavy duty loader. It was probably the best bang for my buck I have seen so far, came in a lot cheaper than the Kioti, by about 4k, and it also comes standard with a few bells and whistles other dealers have as options.
I will be buying this model soon. The only downside is that they do not do any sort of financing so I still have to try and come to terms with dropping that kind of liquid cash on a new tractor. Not that I can't but it just hurts less when you know you have financing options.